The people of Zimbabwe should be talking about the 23 August 2023 elections, specifically the damning SADC election mission report and making sure the regional leaders do not sweep it under the carpet. Instead of the Chamisa and his CCC friends playing a leading role in this, they are busy fighting amongst themselves. They could not care less!
The saga sparked by Sengezo Tshabangu’s, who is claiming to be the interim CCC Secretary General, letter to Speaker of Parliament and the Minister of Local Government, recalling some CCC MPs and councillors; is raging on.
“Team Tshabangu Exposed” claimed a post on social media from Mutambara.
“1/ We have managed to expose the true identity of Tshabangu, a group of individuals who are betraying the struggle. They previously did this during President Morgan Tsvangirayi's era and are now repeating it under President Nelson Chamisa.
“4/ These individuals, including former MDC Alliance VPs (one based in Harare and one in Bulawayo), a former Harare mayor who is also a councillor for Hatcliffe Constituency, a sitting MP for Kuwadzana East Constituency…”
I found 5/ laughable and sickening!
“5/ Sources close to the matter have revealed that these individuals do not care about the people and their struggles following the rigged elections, as long as things go their way. They have been colluding with Zanu PF for a very long time.”
This is a case of an open fire pan calling an open fire pot, black.
Most of the CCC leaders on each side of the two warring factions were in the 2008 to 2013 GNU and, as we know, they all failed to implemented even one token democratic reform in five years. And we know why. Mugabe bribed them with the trappings of high office and, with their snouts in the feeding trough, they forgot about the reforms. They certainly did “not care about the people and their struggles” precisely because “things were going their way.”
These MDC/CCC leaders have been participating in these flawed elections since the GNU knowing fully well that Zanu PF was denying the people their fundamental right to a meaningful vote and that by participating the opposition would give Zanu PF legitimacy. They soldiered on and participated regardless because they also knew that Zanu PF was offering a few gravy train seats to entice their participation. What is more these leaders knew all these things!
“The (2013) electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw, which would compel SADC to hold Zanu PF to account. But such was the distrust between the MDC-T and MDC-N that neither could withdraw for fear that the other would remain in the elections, winning seats and giving the process credibility,” confessed David Coltart in his Book, The Struggle Continues 50 years of Tyranny in Zimbabwe.
It is therefore an insult to every thinking Zimbabwean out there to hear anyone of these sell out CCC leaders wagging the accusing finger at another MDC/CCC leaders and pontificating about “these individuals do not care about the people and their struggles following the rigged elections, as long as things go their way.”
It is the height of hypocrisy when the devil not only quotes the teaching of Bible but has chutzpah to claim to it as his own them. No CCC leader should dare to claim the moral high ground and accuse anyone of “not caring about the people and their struggles following the rigged elections, as long as things go their way.” Don’t even dare go there!
Zimbabwe is stuck with this corrupt, tyrannical and vote rigging Zanu PF dictatorship precisely because ALL the MDC/CCC are corrupt and breathtakingly incompetent. Not some but all of them!
When we should be concentrating on making sure this Zanu PF regime is declared illegal so we can have a National Transition Authority and implement the democratic reforms; CCC is once again proving to be a serious distraction. SADC leaders may well use the infighting in CCC as an excuse for sweeping the damning SADC election report under the carpet!
@ Bachipeneti
ReplyDeleteWell, let the facts on the ground be the judge which one of us is telling the truth, which one of us is the village idiot!
I repeat MDC/CCC sold out by failing to implement even one token reforms in 23 years, including 5 in the GNU and they have been selling out by participating in flawed elections to give Zanu PF legitimacy out of greed! I dare you to deny this is not truth!
Alternative definition of stupid:
ReplyDeleteKnowing the elections are being rigged.
Believing CCC will win big because Chamisa said he has plugged all the vote rigging loop-holes.
Accepting Chamisa’s “gigantic fraud” excuse for yet another rigged elections, no questions asked about the gigantic lies!
Of course, but is insane that a whole nation - whole nation - can be conned by a corrupt and incompetent upstart like Chamisa into believing the lies of winning in rigged election strategies even after 43 years of Zanu PF mafiosi rigging elections! We really have some dum people among us!
You can claim all you want that MDC/CCC "are trying to bring change" the fact on the ground tell the real story. They have failed to bring about even one token reform in 23 years because they sold out.
ReplyDelete“Mazivanhu eMDC adzidza kudya anyerere!” boasted Zanu PF cronies during the GNU when asked why MDC leaders had failed to to implement even one reform.
MDC/CCC leaders themselves have admitted that greed rules the roost!
“The (2013) electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw, which would compel SADC to hold Zanu PF to account. But such was the distrust between the MDC-T and MDC-N that neither could withdraw for fear that the other would remain in the elections, winning seats and giving the process credibility,” confessed David Coltart in his Book, The Struggle Continues 50 years of Tyranny in Zimbabwe.
The real village idiots not only refuse to see the facts, refuse to listen to Zanu PF cronies and even the CCC leaders; for such is the overwhelming power of the Chamisa Chete Chete mentality. The “Napoleon is always right!” mentality as George Orwell called it in his book Animal farm. And any one who dares to question Chamisa is public enemy number one!
It is hard to believe after 43 years of rigged elections anyone would still be so dum, thick and to still believe in the oxymoronic nonsense of winning in rigged elections strategies. But clearly there are many who not only believe but would lynch all those who dare question Chamisa Chete Chete!
No wonder Zimbabwe is a failed state and, worst of all, has no hope of ever getting out of this hell-hole with such nincompoops for electorate. None!
@ Osama23
ReplyDelete“Was chamisa the only candidate that contested?
Why u do not take issue with the other 10?
unenge wakanyengerwa hure rako naChamisa
Haa zvinorwadza wena
Saka uchaita sei?”
Osama23, you are wiser than King Solomon himself, please share your wisdom with us ordinary mortals!
Are you saying that Chamisa did not lie about plugging all the vote rigging holes? Or are you saying he did not lie because he was not the only one who participated in the flawed elections?
Are you saying every time any one mentions Chamisa participating in the 2023 presidential elections he/she must mention all the other 10 contestants. No doubt, you would argue, they are all equally to blame for participating and giving legitimacy to the vote rigging Zanu PF.
Well, according to the ZEC results Mnangagwa got 52.6% of the votes, Chamisa got 44% and the remaining 9 candidates shared 3.4%. Would you agree, oh wise one, that in terms of apportioning blame for participating in flawed elections to give Zanu PF legitimacy it is reasonable to focus on the one with the 44% than on the 9 sharing 3.6%?
So you are defending Chamisa’s lies and, worst of all, you are frothing and fuming at me for daring to call him a sell out. “Saka uchaite sei?” you ask.
Simple, I will continue to produce the evidence that Chamisa et al are sell out who will never deliver any meaningful reforms and free and fair elections. Let those with the intellect to see the truth and perceive, to hear and comprehend do so.
As for you Osama23, you clearly do not want the truth to be said and if that is what you were eluding to, then middle finger salute to you oh wise one! The truth will be said!
So you are defending Chamisa’s lies and, worst of all, you are frothing and fuming at me for daring to call him a sell out. You keeping asking me whatI am doing about it..
ReplyDeleteSimple, I will continue to produce the evidence that Chamisa et al are sell outs who will never deliver any meaningful reforms and free and fair elections. Let those with the intellect to see the truth and to perceive, to hear and comprehend; do so.
As for you and your howler monkey friends who do not want the truth to be said, it is middle finger salute to you lot! The truth will be said regardless of your howling and blackmail!
8/ President Chamisa, known for his tolerance and patience, listened to this MP. It is worth noting that President Chamisa is one of the most tolerant, patient, and forgiving politicians.
ReplyDelete9/He even knew that Mwonzora would betray him long before it happened but chose not to fire him, but allowing time to reveal his true colors.
CCC is breaking up because the party has an underlying problem of having corrupt and incompetent leaders. These are the same individuals who failed to implement even one token democratic change during the 2008 to 2013 GNU when the party had the golden opportunity to do so. And so that the party should be tearing itself to pieces once again should not come as a surprise!
CCC is like a house built of mud bricks, if there is a heavy storm, it will collapse. It is sad that in this day and age some people still continue to build mud-brick house, over 2 500 years after the Romans give us cement!
"1. Any correspondence regarding any CCC Member of Parliament listed in the said General Notice 1380D of 2023 and General Notice 1380E of 2023 is to be directed to this office.
ReplyDelete"2. Any communication or notification regarding any CCC Member of Parliament listed in the said General Notice 1380D of 2023 and General Notice 1380E of 2023, to Parliament shall come from this office.
"3 For the avoidance of any doubt, no other person is authorized to correspond or communicate with Parliament concerning CCC Members in Parliament.”
This is just a circus!
CCC is breaking up because the party has an underlying problem of having corrupt and incompetent leaders. These are the same individuals who failed to implement even one token democratic change during the 2008 to 2013 GNU when the party had the golden opportunity to do so. And so that the party should be tearing itself to pieces once again should not come as a surprise!
CCC is like a house built of mud bricks, if there is a heavy storm, it will collapse. It is sad that in this day and age some people still continue to build mud-brick house, over 2 500 years after the Romans give us cement!
@ Osama23
ReplyDelete“You started blaming him even before he contested, zvekuti he got the bigger chunk of the spoils izvo kwatove kungo ngwavha ngwavha.
Personally, u hate the guy, wakadyirwa munda chete,but zvino wanikwa wani. Usazviise pahana unofa nestress.”
For one who claims to be wiser than King Solomon, you never cease to surprise me.
“You started blaming him even before he contested, zvekuti he got the bigger chunk of the spoils izvo kwatove kungo ngwavha ngwavha,” you argue.
Did it ever occur to you that I might have concentrated on him and his CCC because they constituted the main opposition? And so the result has proven me right?
“Personally, u hate the guy, wakadyirwa munda chete,but zvino wanikwa wani. Usazviise pahana unofa nestress,” you continue.
For all you wittering about being clever than King Solomon, you are just another simpleton no different from Boxer in Animal Farm with his “Napoleon is always right!” mantra. You will defend Chamisa because to you he is a demigod who can do no wrong.
Whilst I am holding Chamisa to account for the blatant lies and selling out on reforms. You, in you idiotic foolishness view that as hatred of the man.
I have told you once and will tell you again, those who hold public office must, per se, be democratically accountable to be public. Be they ruling party or opposition including your demigod Chamisa! This is not negotiable!
It is you who is frothing and fuming who is getting stressed because you cannot accept the reality that Chamisa can be questioned by a mere mortal like Wilbert Mukori! He is a fallible mortal who has sold out big time and, of course, he will be held to account! As I said this is not negotiable, even if this is going to kill you! Why should holding a twat to account stress me?
@ Osama
ReplyDeleteZimbabwe is a failed state because MDC leaders sold out on reforms. If you don't know it I do! Just because you consider Chamisa a demigod you think everyone else must think the same. To me he is a corrupt and incompetent nobody just like Emmerson Mnangagwa. The two are important in as much as they are holding public office and messing up the lives of millions of Zimbabweans out there!
“What would you do?” you ask.
ReplyDeleteSimple, I will do what I am doing right now, educating the wildebeest herd who continue to be conned by Chamisa et al. It is insane that millions of Zimbabweans believed the oxymoronic nonsense that Chamisa had plugged all the vote rigging loop-holes. After 43 years of the Zanu PF mafiosi rigging elections, it is an outrage than anyone would believe such a blatant lie and yet many people did!
Zimbabwe is a failed state because we have buffoons like Mnangagwa and Chamisa in power, that is the obvious reason. The not so obvious reason is that we have so naive and gullible citizens who are the ones keeping the buffoons in power.
As long as Zimbabwe continues to have a naive and ignorant electorate, Zimbabwe will remain a failed state!
@ Gen sow
ReplyDelete“In my view the problems facing many here is shying away from confronting the brutal facts of reality yet not loosing focus or dropping the guard on the real objective.
People are encroached in a mediocrity syndrome. MDC and ccc are but just outfits and their membership are Zimbabweans, they're brothers and sisters. Our common opponent here is none other than zanu pf.
Unity does not entail one to leave one's outfit to join the other. The greatest unity is unity of purpose and that purpose is to dislodge zanu pf. Like it or hate it we've the same DNA as MDC and ccc. Saka zvekuswero ma MDC achiti pasi ne ccc or ma ccc achiti pasi ne MDC haa hazvishande izvo rather it works against us. The question now should be how do we unite for a purpose in our diverse to our advantage to dislodge zanu pf. Emotions, hatred, insults, egocentrism and selfishness won't take us anywhere.
My 2 cents.
Thank you 🙏🏽”
In my humble opinion, we should have ended the Zanu PF dictatorship by 2013 at the latest. And yet it is still here, stronger and more arrogant than ever. Why?
MDC/CCC leaders whom we have entrusted to the task of implementing the democratic removes have proven beyond all reason doubt that they are corrupt, incompetent and utterly useless. And yet many Zimbabwean continue to follow them blindly like sheep to the slaughter. There has been a complete lack of intellectual finesse to realise the reality that MDC/CCC not only failed to implement even one token reform in 23 years but have given up.
We like to place our leaders on pedestals and worship them as infallible demigods who know best and can do no wrong. Well MDC/CCC have already proven that they are corrupt and incompetent. It is insane that continue to be conned into believing CCC will win big because Chamisa has winning in rigged elections strategies even after 43 years of Zanu PF mafiosi rigging elections.
If “unity of purpose” meaning continuing to follow CCC leaders then the country will never get out of this hell hole! What the nation needs to open our eyes and to think and stop blundering from pillar to post repeating the same foolish mistakes over and over again!
One should be careful what one wish for. CCC wanted 15 of its MPs recalled and Jacob Mudenda has granted them their wish. The chaos that paralysed the opposition in the 2018 to 2023 parliament has returned. The prospect of a chaotic CCC government is unthinkable!
ReplyDeleteSADC leaders MUST uphold the damning SADC election report and deny Zanu PF political legitimacy. They can spare Zimbabwe the prospect of a chaotic and unstable CCC government by insisting on interim arrangement that will guarantee the implementation of all the democratic reform BEFORE fresh elections. Implement all the reforms and you drain Zimbabwe's sewage pond and fill it with clean water; you guaranteed to catch quality fish, quality leaders!
https://www.facebook.com/4415858595176450/videos/3468719680049399
@ Chamgamire
ReplyDeleteZimbabweans will be unified by implementing the reforms that will guarantee the freedoms and rights of all citizens unlike the present system that gives dictatorial power to the few ruling elite!
@ Nigel
ReplyDeleteYou did not anticipate SADC election observer team producing a damning report on the 23 August elections and so you should not pretend to know what SADC leaders will say on the report much less what will happen next. Your may well be right to say nothing will happen but you might wrong too.
What makes you think I am misleading people and you are not?
Stop dismissing other people's opinion. Stop marking other people's work!
You do enjoy reminding how old, sickly, poor, ugly and stupid I am. And how young, healthy, rich, handsome, super sexy and clever you are. I have confined myself to comment on matters like reforms, free and fair elections and why we are stuck after 43 years of rigged elections. I know you cannot resist talking about yourself, remind those less gifted than you who you are and praising your demigod Nelson Chamisa who can do no wrong.
ReplyDeleteI do accept that we cannot all be as handsome, healthy, sexy, etc., etc., as you. But I must remind you again that this is a platform to discuss national issues and not one for you to boast about yourself much less for you to silence public debate on matters of public interest.
I have said it a thousand times and will say it again Chamisa and his CCC friends are holding public office and they are, per se accountable to the public. Yes even those of us who are old and have measles on their mouth! That is not negotiable!
As far as I know, you are one day older than you were yesterday, a year older than you were last year and so am I and so is every living thing. So old age is neither a curse nor a virtue but a reality. So what the Dickens are you crowing about, calling me an old man as if you are blessed with eternal youth?
I will be damned if I should ever be silenced by some egotistic nincompoop, even if they team up to form the troop of howling monkeys!
You are free to support whoever you like but if that person ever get into public office then he/she must be accountable to the public because what they do in office affect us all. You can not use your good looks and eternal youth to deny those of us who are not as good looking and are afflicted by the common curse of mere mortals of growing older with each passing second the right to hold public officials to account! Get that into your howling monkey head and we will all get on! Over step and you will be told in no uncertain terms that you are just a narcissist jerk!
ReplyDeleteI have been wondering why people think a GNU is a possible resolution to the current situation. The last time we had such it was because there had been a stalemate& Mugabe had no option but to accept the SA-brokered deal. Moreso, the MDCs had very strong footing in Parliament.
ReplyDeleteZANU–PF lost its majority in the House of Assembly for the first time since 1980, as the two factions of the MDC won most of the seats. Again, a month after the election the MDC factions merged which meant they had absolute control of Parliament.
This made Mugabe's position politically untenable. They had the numbers to impeach him. It's unlike today. The many variables in the current situation don't provide much substance for a repeat of the GNU.
In 2008 it was clear and easy to argue that the opposition had been rigged because the Legislative numbers had a massive opposition win. That win didn't correspond with the Presidential numbers which gave Tsvangirai only 47%. It was an easy sell.
Rubbish! The 2008 to 2013 GNU was formed because MDC had the majority in parliament. SADC and AU refused to accept the 2008 election result and the Zanu PF government because of the blatant cheating in the March vote count and the wanton violence in the run-off. The primary purpose of the GNU was to implement the democratic reform to ensure the cheating and violence will never be repeated again.
Alas! not even one reform was implemented and hence the reason we are here today with yet another election that both SADC and AU have dismissed as a farce. We need a new GNU or NTA but one that MUST implement all the reforms without failure!
Temba Mliswa was one of the senior Zanu PF leaders who played a major part in the Zanu PF's rigged elections including the wanton violence of 2008. He has never admitted to Zanu PF rigging the elections and is trying to rewrite the 2008 GNU, airbrushing all that wanton violence and blatant betrayals.
The strategic ambiguity is turning out to be a black box that is empty when all along people thought it was full of top secrets! "Tshabangu has challenged Chamisa to prove his CCC membership and who appointed him the leader!" What ever next! Ask Chamisa to prove he is a human being and not a monkey!
ReplyDeleteWell one thing is certain God is certainly not in any of this s***t! Indeed He never was in any of the MDC idiotic blunders!
THE European Union (EU) has dropped a bombshell saying it might withdraw its support for Zimbabwe’s Arrears Clearance and Debt Resolution process following the country’s disputed polls.
ReplyDeleteThe bloc recently withdrew the US$5,8 million it had given to the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission to oil the election process.
In February, African Development Bank president Akinwumi Adesina, who headlined the crucial debt meeting with former Mozambican President Joaquim Chissano, said free and fair elections would be important in helping Zimbabwe navigate a debt overhang which has been compounded by protracted defaults and penalties.
I very glad to see someone is taking the issue of rigged elections with the seriousness the matter demands! I hope the EU will go one step further and reinstate all the targeted sanction they had place on the Zanu PF ruling elite with one more added thing - make sure that these sanctions bite this time!
This is circus, the MDC /CCC has failed to implement even one reform in 23 years including the 5 years in the GNU. The people of Zimbabwe must wake up to the political reality that CCC will never change anything!
ReplyDeleteThe EU has withdrawn its support of Zimbabwe's US$17.5 debt arrears clearance. They must follow this up by imposing the sanctions the EU had lifted if SADC leaders should dare to sweep under the carpet the damn SADC election report.
ReplyDeleteIn 1978 Edson Zvobgo called for the imposition of UN sanctions on the oppressive white regime in the then Rhodesia. The sanctions are justified now as back then for exactly the same reason - the fact that the oppressor is now black and not white is immaterial to those on the coal face!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEocvKx-wJE
In an interview with News24, Tshabangu said there would be a second, third, or even fourth round of recalls, and that would encompass legislators from other parts of the country.
ReplyDelete"We are cleaning up the party. It's back to basics. Those that we recalled know that they didn't win our primary selection process. Instead, they were handpicked by people in Harare (the capital city) to stand for election. That was not the people's will. All of them will be recalled in later rounds," he said.
In a statement, CCC spokesperson Promise Mkhwananzi accused Tshabangu and those working with him behind the scenes of being auxiliaries of Zanu-PF.
He called Tshabangu "a stooge [for] many faces that are yet to come to the open”.
This is just madness. Chamisa has controlled everything, rejected calls to have a party constitution, structures and have elected leadership for fear of infiltration by the enemy. Now it turns out that the new party was heavily infiltrated already.
Sometime we meet our destiny by the road we take to avoid it. By resisting all the measures that would have made CCC an open and truly democratic party Chamisa kept it a private and secretive party vulnerable to infiltration.
The people themselves should not have been so naive and gullible. The clearly wanted a democratic party and were pleased to hear the repeated assurances from Chamisa that CCC was a people’s party . They should have been smart enough to see that Chamisa said one thing but did the opposite.
The whole nation is once again paying dearly for the CCC wildebeest herd’s naivety. The chaos in CCC will affect us all. The party is the official opposition party and that gives them a lot of political clout!
@ Chidewenyika
ReplyDeleteI never said nothing happened during the GNU. I said MDC failed to implement even one token meaningful democratic reform. The 2013 Constitutions was dictated by Mugabe, as Paul Mangwa rightly boasted and it shows. Tsvangirai said it was an "MDC child" but that was just foolish!
@ Mahupete
ReplyDelete“Hmmm....hazvisi kufamba as predicted by your 'high horse' mentality. Ko kuti ' if Sadc leaders should dare.....'!! Where has your confidence gone?! It has dawned upon you kuti your membership to the exclusive club ye ''zviroto zviroto" is now but guaranteed. You are crudely confessing that there never was such a thing as 'Sadc damning what what all along’!!”
The trouble with having a binary mentality is that once you have once you have decided on right or wrong the former cannot do anything wrong and vic-versa. You do not have have the luxury to change because you do not have the intellect to reason.
I neither support Zanu PF nor CCCC but that is only confusing you. Beside the option of wrong and right there are many others like both wrong, both right, being right on one issue and wrong on another, etc.
Sad that in a world of all the colours of the rainbow all you ever see is black or white because of of your binary mentality! There was nothing in what I said to suggest I am a Zanu PF supporter but with your pea-size brain if I criticise CCC I must be a Zanu PF supporters. It was tragic for Zimbabwe that people like you have a vote; it is like giving a monkey a loaded gun - whatever happens its a disaster!
Just over a month after disputed general elections in Zimbabwe, the main opposition party, Citizens Coalition for Change (CCC), appears to be imploding as a renegade outfit starts recalling parliamentarians.
ReplyDeleteLed by one Sengezo Tshabangu, who claims to be the party's secretary-general, they have recalled 15 lawmakers from Bulawayo and Matabeleland North who, in turn, have gone to court to challenge their expulsions.
In an interview with News24, Tshabangu said there would be a second, third, or even fourth round of recalls, and that would encompass legislators from other parts of the country.
"We are cleaning up the party. It's back to basics. Those that we recalled know that they didn't win our primary selection process. Instead, they were handpicked by people in Harare (the capital city) to stand for election. That was not the people's will. All of them will be recalled in later rounds," he said.
In a statement, CCC spokesperson Promise Mkhwananzi accused Tshabangu and those working with him behind the scenes of being auxiliaries of Zanu-PF.
The nation should be working with SADC leaders to make sure the regional body does not sweep the damning SADC election report and grant Zanu PF legitimacy. This is a serious distraction! The regional leaders who have been pushing for the report to be ignored will be arguing “Like it or not, Zanu PF is the only game in Zimbabwe! Deny them legitimacy and there will be chaos in the country, guaranteed!”
The truth Zimbabwe needs the NTA more than even because with it and the certainty of implementing the reforms the country will be stuck with this dysfunctional political system that has clearly failed to produce quality leaders in the ruling party, Zanu PF, or in the multitude of opposition parties including the many MDC versions.
Zanu PF and CCC leaders were not going to be included in the NTA, not if any one was serious about making sure ALL the democratic reforms would be implemented, and so the latter imploding makes no difference to the plan. SADC must uphold the SADC and AU damning reports and deny Zanu PF legitimacy. The NTA must then be setup and tasked to implement ALL the democratic reform!
Yes CCC is imploding and the more reason SADC leaders should go ahead and uphold SADC and AU damning election reports, deny Zanu PF legitimacy and set up a NTA. CCC and Zanu PF was not going to be in the NTA and so the former's implosion is inconsequential.
ReplyDeleteZimbabwe is a failed state because the country does not have quality leaders on both sides of the political divide. The present system is a sewage pond hence the need for the NTA and reforms so we can drain the pond and fill it with clean water. Only then can we have quality fish, quality leaders!
https://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-236373.html
CCC is imploding, the party is tearing itself apart with the recalls, accusation and counter-accusations. Chamisa rejected all calls to have a party constitution, party structures and to have elected office bearers because he feared disruption from Zanu PF infiltrators. He now has a mother of disruptions from unelected officials taking advantage of very fact that there is no party constitution and rule of law.
ReplyDeleteCCC is party where there is no rule of law and only the most ruthless thugs survive and thrive. "Wapusa wapusa!"
It is no surprise CCC is imploding, these last 23 years MDC/CCC leaders have proven beyond all doubt that they are corrupt and breathtakingly incompetent. They are proving it for the umpteenth time!
What a time for CCC to be imploding, when the country should be pushing SADC leaders to uphold the damning SADC election report and setup the NTA to implement the democratic reforms. The regional leaders may well use CCC implosion as an excuse to grant Zanu PF political legitimacy!
https://www.zimeye.net/2023/10/11/its-laughable-and-sickening/
@ Chitando
ReplyDelete“Public Enemy Number One.... Tshabangu!!!
Morrison Nyati , the man who defected from Zanla and led the Rhodesian government in the bombing of Chimoi during the liberation struggle is been reduced to a baby in Zimbabwean history of sellouts by Sengezo Tshabangu. Tshabangu knows that he is not CCC Secretary General but is prepared to skin alive the people's democratic right by recalling elected Councillors and Mps.”
If Tshabangu is not SG, who is the SG? You lot were warned of the dangers of having no constitution, party structures and elected officials. Chamisa did not any of this because he wanted to be president, VP, SG, etc. and a law unto himself. Now the lawlessness has exploded in his face as Tshabangu has claimed to be SG and, of course, no one can prove that he is not no more than Chamisa can prove he is president!
This comes as no surprise, of course, we are talking here of a party so corrupt, incompetent and utterly useless. The party that has failed to implement even one token democratic change in 23 years - the number one task they were elected to do!
Indeed, even senior leaders like you, Chitando have no clue what the reforms are much less how they are implemented. You are fighting to keep your position on the feeding trough - that is all you care about. Reforms! What reforms?
Mutambara writes:
ReplyDelete"The MP ‘recalls’ and Chamisa ‘overthrow’
Ko macomrades muri kurashika papi?
Why are you surprised?
Were these not the OBVIOUS ZANU-PF next steps?
Why are you talking about the law???
Why are we this naive??
These are clearly illegal POLITICAL actions by ZANU-PF.
Period.
The people of Zimbabwe have risked life, limb and everything to elect MDC/CCC leaders into power so that they can implement the democratic reforms and end the tyrannical and oppressive Zanu PF autocracy. Instead of MDC/CCC leaders, themselves, being democratic and championing the rule of law they has copied and pasted Mugabe and Zanu PF’s corrupt and tyrannical ways and now they are Zanu PF in all but name!
One of Zanu PF’s insidious habit is to blame everyone else, especially the West, for all the country’s problems even when it is clear it is the regime’s fault. The regime went into overdrive attacking Dr Nevers Mumba and President Hakainde Hichilema of Zambia over the damning SADC 23 August 2023 election report, for example. The truth is it was the regime itself that had failed to produce even something as basic as a verified voters’ roll!
Chamisa stubbornly refused to have a party constitution, party structures and properly elected officials because he wanted to make all the decision himself and to be a law unto himself. It has all backfired on him and the whole party! Like it or not no one can PROVE Tshabangu is not SG no more than Chamisa himself can prove he is president!
So instead of acknowledging Chamisa’s blundering incompetence Arthur Mutambara is leading from the front in blaming Zanu PF! How stupid is that and yet how typical!
In a surprising response to the situation in Zimbabwe President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa said it was un usual to hear that elected Members of Parliament in the ZIMBABWE Opposition Party were being recalled this soon after the elections.
ReplyDeleteSADC Leaders managed to push for an Extraordinary Summit of Heads of States and Governments on Zimbabwe in Tanzania Dares Lam this October on the 31st. The regional block is determined to resolve the political impasse in Zimbabwe were Elections held on August 23/24 were roundly dismissed as a Sham by most Election Observation Mission Teams including SADC. The SEOM REPORT on Zimbabwe elections said the elections fell short of SADC guidelines and principles of a democratic election.
Two points from this report:
It is worry that leaders like President Ramaphosa has pick up the drama of CCC recalls because he may well use this as the excuse to sweeping the damning SADC election report and grant Zanu PF political legitimacy. Last November ANC made a party resolution “not to allow regime change in Zimbabwe; it may still get its wish!
The SADC Extraordinary Summit of Heads of State and Government to discuss the SEOM damning report is confirmed, 31 October 2023! Those propagandists and apologist who said there would be no summit to discuss Zimbabwe and the next SADC Summit will be August 2024 have been proven wrong.
Here is the good news!
ReplyDeleteSADC Extraordinary Summit of Heads of State and Government to discuss the SEOM damning report is confirmed, 31 October 2023!
Zanu PF propagandists, apologists and village idiots said there would be no SADC summit. "We are SADC!" they claimed. Well they all eating humble pie!
We must now focus on getting a NTA that will implement ALL the democratic reforms.
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@ George
ReplyDelete“What is your problem Mukori? So that lady is wrong ? Iwewe you are in the UK you are not even on the ground, you are just a keyboard warrior, at least those people are trying.”
They are trying what exactly? MDC/CCC have been in power for 23 years including 5 years in the GNU, what democratic reforms have they implemented? Not even one!
The trouble with the howling monkey nincompoops like you George is you have failed to comprehend the essence of democratic accountability. When we say those in public office are accountable to the public it means exactly that - the public. The public includes the handsome guys like you George but also the ugly one like me, those inside Zimbabwe as well as those outside Zimbabwe, men as well as women, key board warriors as well as those in the trenches, etc., etc.
It is a sacred duty of every citizen to hold those in public office to democratic account this is the only why the nation can be certain those in public office serve the nation and not hold public office for selfish gain.
I have salute all those outside Zimbabwe who continue to take an active interest in what is happening in the country be it in supporting those in the country and/or in actively searching to end the curse of rigged elections and failed state.
I have lost patience with village idiots like you George who, in your foolish believe that political leaders are demigods who must never be questioned much less held to account, are now the self appointed gatekeepers filtering who can hold the demigods to account! You should tell us why MDC/CCC leaders have failed to implement even one reform in 23 years. If you cannot do so then shut your howling monkey trap!
Chamisa, like all other public office holders, is accountable to the public - that is not negotiable. No matter how long you howling monkeys howl - that is not negotiable!
@ Evangelist
ReplyDelete“Vanomupisira Mumba vanhu ne petrol pple are very angry.”
How typical!
If Tshabangu has committed a crime report him to the relevant authorities and let them handle it. Taking the law into your own hands is exactly what Zanu PF has been doing and hence the reason we are a lawless nation, a pariah state.
The people elected MDC/CCC leaders to implement democratic changes and transform the country from an autocratic dictatorship to a democracy. MDC/CCC leaders have become as corrupt and tyrannical as the Zanu PF thugs.
No doubt, if this was a CCC government Tshabangu will be in Chikurubi with no charge or trial just another Job Sikhala!
CCC’s failure to have a party constitution, structures and elected officials was a serious mistake. Instead of admitting and putting that right you bury your head in the sand and pretend you did nothing wrong! You really are incapable of learning and therefore doomed to blunder from pillar to post to the end!
Of course, you still have faith in Chamisa. You had no clue what was going on before and have no clue what is going on now. You are like Boxer, the horse in Animal Farm, he understood nothing and so placed all his trust in Napoleon. "Napoleon is always right!" was his motto. You are no different.
ReplyDeleteThe real tragedy is that Chamisa is not always right but has already proven that he is corrupt and breathtakingly incompetent. And it is all water off the duck's back, you continue to follow Chamisa as doggedly as ever. It is village idiots like you who are keeping the buffoons in power! And as long as village idiots have the vote the buffoons know they will rule until donkeys have horns!
Kudos! Brett, a man amongst mice! A man after my own heart!
ReplyDeleteIt is every free man's duty to hold those in public office to account and yet you are being taken to task for carrying out that task by the twats who, in their stupidity, believe leaders are demigods who must never be questioned.
We are a failed state because we have buffoon as leaders and it is the village idiots who are keeping them in power!
So when SADC and AU election observers dismissed the 23 August 2023 Zimbabwe elections as a sham, CCC leaders saw nothing wrong and they all trooped in to take the oath of office and their gravy train seats. But now because they have lost the gravy train seats because of their own in house dog-eat-dog fight over the same gravy train seats they suddenly remember the election process was flawed and illegal. How convenient!
ReplyDeleteNo one, I repeat NO ONE, with half a working brain will be fool into believing the boycott by CCC leaders has anything to do with the 23 August 2023 elections or Zanu PF. Chamisa et al shot themselves and each other in the foot or worse and, instead of admitting their folly, they are fishing for others to blame and for sympathy! They best response is to ignore them. We are other important matters to attend to.
@ FM
ReplyDeleteDid you see the CCC MPs who were booted out of parliament, who is more likely to have a heart attack, me or them? Zimbabwe is a fail state and millions are living in abject poverty, these are the suffering innocent you should be asking about. These are the people I am concerned about and not the busy bodies fighting for the gravy train seats!
“I understand your concern about the CCC imploding. It is certainly a difficult time for the party, and it is unclear how the current situation will be resolved.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the CCC needs to have a strong constitution and party structures in place. This is essential for any political party that wants to be successful. Without a strong foundation, the party will be vulnerable to internal divisions and power struggles.
It is also important for the CCC to have a clear and concise political message. What does the party stand for? What are its policies? The CCC needs to be able to articulate its vision for Zimbabwe in a clear and compelling way.
The CCC also needs to build a strong grassroots organization. The party needs to be present in communities all over Zimbabwe. It needs to be able to mobilize and organize its supporters.
The CCC is facing a number of challenges, but it is a party with a lot of potential. If the party can overcome its current difficulties, it has the potential to make a positive difference in the lives of the Zimbabwean people.
I agree that the CCC implosion could be used by SADC leaders as an excuse to grant ZANU-PF political legitimacy. This is why it is important for the CCC to unite and to focus on the common goal of removing ZANU-PF from power.
The CCC is a new party, and it is still in the process of establishing itself. It is important to be patient and to support the party as it goes through this difficult period.
ZEM FOUNDER.”
The problem with some people is that they do not know when to let go! Chamisa and company have already proven beyond all reasonable doubt that they are corrupt and breathtakingly incompetent. But, of course, if you do not have the intellect to comprehend the evidence put before you nothing has been proven. Nothing!
MDC/CCC leaders sold out big time by failing to implement even one democratic reform in 23 years including 5 years in the GNU. Most people out there have no clue what the reforms are much less that the primary purpose of the GNU was to implement the reforms. Even today, with the benefit of hindsight, many still have no clue what the reforms are. How can these people ever blame MDC/CCC leaders for failing to implement something they do even know?
Yes the people have an inkling, at best, that MDC/CCC leaders have not done well, but even then, they are not sure what where they failed and hence the reason they will give the corrupt and breathtakingly incompetent MDC/CCC leaders countless chances.
Zimbabwe is a failed state because we have buffoon, on both sides of the political divide, in positions of power and authority and it is the ignorant and naive voters who are keeping them there!
So when SADC and AU election observers dismissed the 23 August 2023 Zimbabwe elections as a sham, CCC leaders saw nothing wrong and they all trooped in to take the oath of office and their gravy train seats. But now because they have lost the gravy train seats because of their own in house dog-eat-dog fight over the same gravy train seats they suddenly remember the election process was flawed and illegal. How convenient!
No one, I repeat NO ONE, with half a working brain will be fool into believing the boycott by CCC leaders has anything to do with the 23 August 2023 elections or Zanu PF. Chamisa et al shot themselves and each other in the foot or worse and, instead of admitting their folly, they are fishing for others to blame and for sympathy! They best response is to ignore them. We are other important matters to attend to.
Zimbabwe is a failed state because we have failed to hold free, fair and credible elections for 43 years. The nation had a number of golden opportunities to implement the reforms and end the curse of rigged elections and the best of these opportunities came during the 2008 to 2013 GNU MDC/CCC leaders failed to get even one reform implemented.
ReplyDeleteMDC/CCC leaders must be held to democratic account for this blatant betrayal.
Many people out there do not know what happened during the GNU and they need to be educated on that matter. I am educating them.
My failure to organise my political party is a feeble excuse for MDC/CCC leaders’ betrayal.
You and a number of your idiotic friends believe leaders like Chamisa are demigods who must never be questioned much less held to democratic account, myopic mentality borrowed from Zanu PF manual.If we want a healthy and functioning democratic Zimbabwe then we must stamp out this foolishness.
Leaders a fallible mortals and they must be held to account; period.
You have dug deep in you effort to stop be holding Chamisa and company to account. You accused me of rape, being jailed for 25 years, etc. I ask you again to produce the evidence.
You cannot make such malicious accusation against someone just because you have lost an argument much less for the purpose of stifling debate and democratic discourse.
You cannot bring your criminal, malevolent Zanu PF mentality on this platform. Some of us have fought to end the Zanu PF dictatorship all our lives and will not accept it being resurrected in a new disguise!
I repeat, all those who hold public office are accountable to the public - that is not negotiable and your howling monkey tactic will not silence me nor your malicious lies!