Thursday 27 December 2018

"Mnangagwa is sincere about change" - why then did he rig the elections P Guramatunhu

“What kind of leaders would the armed struggle throw up?” Was the rhetorical question Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of independent India, and the other leaders asked themselves. 

“And are those the men and women we would want to rule India?” 

India did not wage an armed struggle to end British rule and when the country finally gained her independence the nation ripped its reward - it had competent men and women humble enough to accept that they are fallible mortals. 

Nehru and others embraced the democratic ethos that every citizen has right to a meaningful say in who governed the country. And, more significant, embraced the possibility that armed struggle leaders would be tempted to impose their will on the unarmed civilians. 

Zimbabwe’s armed struggle forced the white colonialists to give up power but only to for the liberators to set themselves up as the new oppressors. “Zanu PF yakashungunura nyika akashungirira vanhu!” (Zanu PF liberated the country but not the people!) as my late mother would say. 

Our war of independence did throw up leaders who believe that they have the divine right to rule Zimbabwe as they saw fit.

“We are the stockholders of Zimbabwe and everyone else is a stakeholder!” said Victor Matemadanda. He was expressing a view passionately held by Zanu PF members and the war veterans. As stockholders, they have the veto, exemplified by Zanu PF’s dictatorial powers to rig elections to guarantee no regime change. We, ordinary people, the stakeholders, have the meaningless vote as elections were routinely rigged to deliver Zanu PF landslide victories. 

The root cause of Zimbabwe’s economic and political problems is the country’s failure to remove Zanu PF from office even when there was overwhelming evidence the party’s leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 

The corollary is equally true; the only solution to Zimbabwe’s economic and political problems is stopping Zanu PF rigging elections to ensure free, fair and credible election. 

In other words, the one change the nation has been dying for these last 38 years is to have democratic reforms designed to stop Zanu PF rigging elections implemented. Without free and fair elections all hope of a just and peaceful political system and economic recovery and prosperity will remain a pipedream!

“I am aware that many will have a difficult Christmas,” Mnangagwa acknowledge in his Christmas message to the nation. “I encourage all of us to be patient, resilient and to work harder in collective unity, as we create a better, democratic and prosperous Zimbabwe for all.”

This is all wishful thinking of course Mnangagwa has just rigged the recent elections and thus failed to deliver on the one change without which there will never be any meaningful political and economic change.

For the last 38 years, Zanu PF has promised the nation a better life and yet years after year the situation has got worse and worse. Mnangagwa is asking the nation to be patient. Patient for five more years of heart-breaking human misery whilst Zanu PF blundering from pillar to post! 
And worst of all, Mnangagwa is asking the people of Zimbabwe to be patient and let him remain in office until 2023. If Zanu PF remained in power until 2023 we can be 100% certain the party will rig those elections to extend its rule by yet another five years! 

The people of Zimbabwe should have never allowed Zanu PF thugs to deny them their birth-right to a meaningful vote. We have allowed the thugs to ride roughshod over our freedoms and rights and have paid dearly for our folly and after 38 years, with the nation in a real economic and political mess the cry to end the madness of appeasing Zanu PF thugs is deafening. Sadly there a few who still want to appease Zanu PF thugs!

“I get attacked for having faith in President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s sincerity in changing Zimbabwe,” twittered Trevor Ncube, CEO and owner of NewsDay, The Standard and Zimbabwe Independent newspapers.

“I perfectly understand why some people are angry with me. I have met the man and am convinced he is committed to durable change. In any case I can’t see anybody else with potential to deliver change.” 

No Mr Ncube, you think you understand what is going on here but actually you have no clue. Let us just consider three key points: 

1.   Your faith in Mnangagwa’s commitment to deliver durable change is clearly misplaced. The only durable change in Zimbabwe has to start with implementing the democratic reforms and holding free, fair and credible elections. Mnangagwa has stubbornly refused to implement even one reform since taking over from Mugabe and then blatantly rig the 2018 elections. He did not stop there, he went on even further to shoot dead six civilians, just to underline that he would shed even more innocent blood in his resolve to hang on to power at all cost. 

Lest we forget, Mnangagwa and his junta staged a military coup for the sole purpose of wrestling power from Mugabe and the the G40 faction. And before the coup it was Mnangagwa and his junta who had played the major role in creating and retaining the Zanu PF dictatorship. Mnangagwa has no intention of dismantling the dictatorship and the commitment to change, Mr Ncube is talking about is delusion.

2.   “I can’t see anybody else with potential to deliver change!” Of all the feeble excuses that takes the biscuit. So because Ncube cannot see anyone else capable of delivering change he going to support a corrupt and murderous tyrant whose has already proven beyond all doubt that he does not want change!

3.   The political environment in Zimbabwe is like a lifeless sewage pond and hence the reason there are no quality leaders on either side of the political divide. 

The way forward is for country to appoint an interim administration whose number one task will be to implement the raft of democratic reforms agreed at the onset of the 2008 GNU. The reforms will free state institutions like ZEC, Police and Judiciary to play their part in delivering free, fair and credible elections. The reforms will also end the present culture of stifle debated and democratic competition, this will air the pond to allow life to return and thrive.

Mnangagwa and his Zanu PF junta rigged the recent elections. They have no mandate to govern. They are illegitimate. They must step down.
  
Fighting in the liberations war is no excuse for Zanu PF thugs to grant unto themselves the dictatorial powers to deny the ordinary Zimbabweans their birth-right to a meaningful say in the governance of the country. It is tragic that this tyrannical mentality was ever allowed to take root in Zimbabwe and to last all these last 38 years. It must be stamped out immediately! 

What Zimbabwe needs right now is man, men, woman or women who will stand-up and look Mnangagwa and his junta straight in the eyes and tell them in no uncertain terms that they are illegitimate and must step down! 

“All right, I'll go in there for Dorothy. Wicked Witch or no Wicked Witch, guards or no guards, I'll tear them apart!” said the cowardly lion in Wizard of Oz. Next line he was asking everyone “Talk me out of it!”

We are looking for a courageous lion and we got someone worse that the cowardly lion! 

“I have faith in Mnangagwa’s sincerity to deliver change!” says Trevor Ncube. Zimbabwe’s dandy-lion has not only talked himself out of standing up to ED but is now talking us all to follow his cowardly and foolish example!

After 38 years of appeasing Zanu PF thugs at the cost of dragging the whole nation right up to the very edge of the abyss; it is time to say enough is enough. It is time for this nation to deal with its thorny problems and end the heart breaking human suffering and deaths brought on by our failure to accept that our war of independence did throw up corrupt, incompetent and tyrannical leaders whom we have foolishly rewarded with absolute power. 

Mnangagwa and his junta are illegitimate and they must step down; this is not negotiable!

25 comments:

  1. I am disappointed with people like Trevor Ncube. He has been in the media all his career and therefore knows that Zanu PF has denied the people of Zimbabwe freedom of expression and a free media. Mnangagwa has done nothing to end Zanu PF's iron grip on the media as we all known and saw during the recent elections. So where is Mnangagwa's sincerity in seeking change?

    One gets the sickening feeling that Ncube going out of his way to support Mnangagwa, not because the latter has done anything to prove he is going to dismantle the corrupt and tyrannical Zanu PF dictatorship. If anything, Mnangagwa is doing everything in his dictatorial powers to consolidate the dictatorship. Ncube is supporting Mnangagwa out of selfish interest, to gain favours from the dictatorship.

    "Mnangagwa is sincere about change!" Sure, just as he was sincere about holding free, fair and credible elections!

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  2. @ analysis

    Actually both Zanu PF and MDC Alliance are being stupid in claim to have won. The election process was so flawed and illegal ZEC has failed to produce a verified voters' roll and many of the V11 forms with the vote count "disappeared"! It is no wonder the EU reported the the election result as "containing numerous errors, could not be traced or verified".

    Both Zanu PF and MDC Alliance know the recent elections are flawed and illegal and a mockery to democracy; they do not care. All they are quarreling about is how the spoils of power are to be shared out. Give Chamisa a seat on the gravy train and he do and say whatever you ask him.

    As for implementing the reforms, he is only saying that to please his naive and gullible followers. MDC failed to implement the reforms during the GNU, it is naive to expect them to do so now.

    Mnangagwa should have offered Chamisa the post of "Opposition leader" as his British handlers had suggested. He did not because crocodiles are not exactly renowned for their quick thinking. He was very sluggish and slow before and after the elections. He took his time to warm up, basking in the sun.

    Sadly for Mnangagwa by September all the election observer reports were out and they all condemned the elections as flawed and illegal. The cat was out of the bag and there was no putting it back. British, who had hoped to get the elections passed as acceptable, knew that would never happen now and gave up.

    Mnangagwa can grant Chamisa his wish and give him a gravy train seat and in turn Chamisa can declare Mnangagwa the winner of the election so flawed no one knows who voted for him. This will not change the important fact that Zimbabwe has an illegitimate government! And as long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state there will be no meaningful economic recovery.

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  3. @ Phunyuka
    “Shonas are responsible for creating ZANU as we know it today. This might not have been intentional, for the poor rank and file. But truth is; they were used and abused to build the ZANU monster. This is not the ZANU of Ndabaningi Sithole. ZANU went off the rails the moment Mugabe took over. From there on, it became an exclusively Shona political party, with a few non Shonas here and there for disguise. Please let's stop beating about the bush, pretending. Let's diagnose our problems properly. Zimbabwe's problems started in Mozambique. The moment you start pursuing a tribal agenda, as opposed to a national one, things fall apart. The only survivor in all this, is the "divide-and-rule" Politician, not the country!”
    Zanu PF has been just as oppressive after the Zanu PF and PF Zapu unity accord. You keep drumming for the tribal divide and you will drag the nation into yet another blood bath. History will know it was people like you who started it!

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  4. @ Douglas Shoko

    “The writer is full of fatal assumptions. Zimbabwe is on the right path and Mnangagwa is the man to deliver that change. Others are just greedy morons who rejoice at the plight of the poor. Using poverty as keys to state house and state power.”

    The single most important change Zimbabwe needs is democratic change to restore the individual freedoms and rights including the right to a meaningful vote and the right to life. How can Mnangagwa be delivering that democratic change by continuing to rig elections and and to kill innocent people?

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  5. @ Rudo

    “This is a shame if the writer states that our President Mnangagwa is illegitimate.

    President Mnangagwa won the elections convincingly. Right now he is working together with the Government to develop the country. Our country is on economic recovery. Let us work together in this economic trajectory. Harsh speech on our elected Government will not build the nation. We need to unite and work together in harmony to build the Zimbabwe we all want.”

    He won an election in which there was no verified voters' roll? ZEC failed to produce all the V11 forms because the commission knew it would never explain where some of them came from!

    The economic meltdown is getting worse and worse as shown by the shortage of cash, forex, fuel, medicine, etc. You can insist that is proof of "economic recovery" if you wish that reality on the ground will not change.

    Zimbabwe is now on the edge of serious social and political unrest brought on by the economic suffering and deaths. Mnangagwa and his junta must step down now and save the nation the consequences of further suffering, deaths and instability.

    Zimbabwe can be spared the chaos of Libya or Iraq if Zanu PF steps down now. Mugabe was spare the bullet in the last coup, Mnangagwa will not be so lucky!

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  6. @ Phunyuka

    You have still not answered why Zanu PF has continued to be corrupt and tyrannical even after PF Zapu members joined. We can agree that the post 1987 Zanu PF was still as corrupt and tyrannical as before. What I am asking you is; Is the post 1987 Zanu PF still composed of Shonas only?

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  7. @ Phunyuka

    "Shonas supported Mugabe and ZANU in 1980 for selfishness. To date many still support them for the same selfish reasons." This is a nonsense argument! And whom did you support in 1980 and for what reasons? Whom did you want the Shonas to support in 1980 and for what reasons?

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  8. @ Timothy

    “Sometimes I wonder whether some people understand the working of elections at all. How did MDC win almost all urban centres if indeed Munangagwa had the capacity to rig elections. Do you think he did not need Hararre or Kwekwe his home town where the first woman opposition Mayor was sworn in recently.”

    What you lack is imagination! Zanu PF needed to give away a few gravy train seats to entice the opposition to participate in these elections for the process to have some modicum of credibility. What good will it be to Zanu PF to win all the seats if all the opposition boycotted the elections.

    For their part MDC Alliance members did not mind that Zanu PF rigged the elections as long as they get to win a few seats. David Coltart explained this in his book.


    In his Book, The Struggle Continues 50 years of tyranny in Zimbabwe, former MDC – Ncube Senator and Minister of Education in the GNU, David Coltart, gave details of how Zanu PF flouted the electoral rules, it clear the upcoming 2013 elections would not be free and fair. Meanwhile talks of uniting the two MDC factions to fight the elections as one were going nowhere.


    “The worst aspect for me about the failure to agree a coalition was that both MDCs couldn’t now do the obvious – withdraw from the elections,” explained Senator Coltart.


    “The electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw, which would compel SADC to hold Zanu PF to account. But such was the distrust between the MDC-T and MDC-N that neither could withdraw for fear that the other would remain in the elections, winning seats and giving the process credibility.”

    The trouble with some people is that they see but never perceive they ear and never understand. So what is obvious to some will remain a mystery to others.

    Zanu PF blatantly rigged the recent elections, that is obvious to all with half a working brain!

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  9. @Timothy

    “Further, the electoral commission lacked full independence and appeared to not always act in an impartial manner. The final results as announced by the Electoral Commission contained numerous errors and lacked adequate traceability, transparency and verifiability. Finally, the restrictions on political freedoms, the excessive use of force by security forces and abuses of human rights in the post-election period undermined the corresponding positive aspects during the pre-election campaign. As such, many aspects of the 2018 elections in Zimbabwe failed to meet international standards,” reported the EU.

    ZEC’s failure to release the verified voters’ roll was a legal requirement. So if the process was illegal how can the result still be legal.

    “You also seem to think that legitimacy is conferred by the losing candidate. By accepting to partake in the elections Chamisa legitimised the elections and the results do not change anything because there had to be a winner and loser,” you argue.

    I have already told you to disregard what the MDC Alliance members say and do because they are corrupt and incompetent. If the election process is flawed and illegal Chamisa, Mnangagwa or anyone can say what they want that will not change the reality on the ground – the election will still be flawed and illegal!

    Timothy, you are a man of simple intellect so simple that you cannot even comprehend a simple reality like you cannot have free, fair and credible elections when you cannot even produce something as basic as a verified voters’ roll. Of course, it is disappointing that someone should fail to get their heads round something so obvious but you clearly have failed to do so.

    Poor, poor Zimbabwe with simpletons like you Timothy it is little wonder the country is in a real mess. Worse still, as long as you remain in your sloth-like slumber there is no hope the country getting out of this mess!

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  10. @ Phunyuka

    “Yes of course I do accept that. What I don't accept are the revisionist views that say ZANU was not like this right from day one in 1980 and before.

    “This is why I say we should deal with the ZANU of Mugabe in Mozambique to be able to solve the Problems created by ZANU in 2018.

    “I have never excused former PF ZAPU members, but I also refuse the exaggeration of their influence. Many of them are of no consequence in that Gukurahundi party. That is why they don't even speak their languages confidently in that party like the Shonas do with their Shona!”

    If the Zapu members were the political angels you say they were before the Unity Accords of 1987 then why did they play their party in establishing and retaining the corrupt and murderous de facto Zanu PF dictatorship we have all known all these years?

    I refuse to accept this nonsense that someone like Mnangagwa, for example, can claim to be innocent of what all the looting, vote rigging and murders committed by Zanu PF all these years on the grounds that he was not Robert Mugabe. Mnangagwa was a very senior member of Zanu PF and he played his part in the looting, vote rigging and murders and received his share of the absolute power and the wealth. If he did not approve what was going on why did he take his share of the loot and, worse still, play his part in the criminal and treasonous acts!

    You have elected to surgically separate the Shonas from everyone else in Zanu PF for your selfish tribal purposes. Whilst every thinking Zimbabwean is concerned with ending the Zanu PF dictatorship and replacing it with a healthy and functional democracy you are interested in promoting tribal hatred. If Zimbabwe is dragged into tribal blood bath then we all know people like you stroked the fire of hatred!

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  11. This is crisis management at its worst! A few weeks ago government had to scrap the bottom of the barrel to get foreign currency to buy fuel. Today the regime is running around like a headless chicken to find cash to buy drugs! How long can this go on.

    Zanu PF blatant rigged the 30 July 2018 elections landing the whole nation into this mess. The situation is not going to get better, instead it will get worse. The only way out is for the regime to step down now before matters get out of hand!

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  12. Trevor Ncube is confusing Mnangagwa's ability to change the nation's political and economic fortunes with that of changing Ncube's economic fortune. I would not be surprised if Ncube is not receiving the benefit of the later already. Government only has to increase its advertising with Ncube;s media empire and to treat him with kid gloves and Ncube will star smiling.

    As for Zanu PF seeking change to improve the lives of ordinary Zimbabweans, it is very hard for anyone to believe that given the regime has said that for the last 38 years and life has got progressively worse not better for the ordinary person. Worse still, by denying the ordinary people a meaningful vote Zanu PF leader send out a clear message that the ordinary people are fools who cannot be trust with a vote and by implication who can be easily cheated of everything else including promising them change that never comes.

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  13. @ lovejones


    “Trevor is entitled to his opinion. Can't shoot him because I disagree with him. Of course he is in denial. We had one Harvard educated journo who spoke the same language but lately he has changed his tempo. So for Trevor just give him time.”


    Of course, Trevor, you, me and everyone of us are entitled to his/her opinion but that is not to say we must all accept it. In this case,Trevor is not just wrong, he is selling-out. ED has just rigged the elections and therefore to claim that is proof of his commitment to change is just nonsense. Ncube is trying to sell this nonsense just to win favours from ED much the same way MDC leaders pretended they were implementing the reforms during the GNU to win favours from Mugabe.


    We will never get out of the hell-hole we find ourselves in if those in a position to do something to get us our be it implementing reforms or demand for meaningful change are allowed to sell-out the common cause for Judas Iscariot’s thirty pieces of silver. Worse still, we will only encourage the sell-outs if we fail to condemn such blatant betrayal!


    Trevor Ncube is smart enough to know Mnangagwa rigged the recent elections and is only pretending not to notice because he is selling-out to Zanu PF.

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  14. "Zimbabweans are suffering ... we can't afford to go on like this. There is need for leadership … unfortunately Mnangagwa is not willing to provide the kind of leadership that is required.

    "We must not think about our parties or about power ... let's think about Zimbabweans. Let's think about the people whom we are supposed to be leading so that we come together," he said during a surprise tour of Mbare Musika bus terminus in Harare on Christmas eve.

    "We have answers but we can't provide those answers because there is no platform to provide those answers. Our objective is not to form a government of national unity.

    "Our objective is to talk about what the problem is. There was a contestation of the election results ... there is no confidence. So, we have to resolve confidence issues.

    "The challenges we have in the economy are because the politics is stinking … we must have political dialogue," Chamisa added.

    You are right, the root cause of the country’s economic meltdown is our failed political system which has left the nation stuck with a corrupt, incompetent and tyrannical regime now for the last 38 years!

    Mnangagwa and his junta blatantly rigged the recent elections to extend Zanu PF’s ruinous rule!

    Mr Chamisa, you and your fellow MDC leaders did not “think about Zimbabweans” for five years of the 2008 to 2013 GNU. If you had, then you would have implemented all the democratic reforms to stop Zanu PF rigging elections. You failed to get even one reform implemented in five years. Not one!

    Neither Zanu PF nor MDC leaders can be trusted to implement the democratic reforms to get the nation out of this mess. There is really nothing to talk about either than ask both Zanu PF and MDC must step down now to allow the nation to move forward. You lot are holding the nation to ransom!

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  15. As a people, blacks' humanity qualities are not as well developed as they are in other races. We have problems empathising with others and hence the reason blacks had no qualms hunting their own kith and kin and selling them as slaves to the white-men!

    When slave trade was finally abolished the same white men had no trouble colonising Africa and exploiting its people and resources. It was easy to divide and rule a people who were already deeply divided by their mutual distrust of each other with each always on the lookout to take advantage of the other.

    The end of colonial rule has failed to bring peace, justice and prosperity to Africa because instead of co-operating for the good of all we have been fighting to dominate each other creating a fluid situation in which many nation have never known peace and stability.

    Of course, Trevor Ncube, of all people, KNOWS that Mnangagwa rigged the elections. He also KNOWS that Mnangagwa and Zanu PF will resist change even if that means destroying the country. The only reason Ncube still support Mnangagwa and is doing his best to allow Mnangagwa to stay in power is because he is seeing a great opportunity for him, Trevor Ncube, expanding his business empire under Mnangagwa rule.

    Ncube has no empathy for the millions of ordinary Zimbabweans desperate for democratic change and an end to the political and economic mess; he has his eyes fixed on propping the dictatorship to win himself favours with the dictator. Ncube is nothing more than the black man hunting his own kith and kin and selling them for pieces of calico cloth and a fist of shiny beads. He will be disappointed to see the Zanu PF dictatorship dismantled just as his counterpart was disappointed to see slavery abolished two centuries ago!

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  16. @ Timothy

    “It is very difficult to rely on Coltart's opinion because as a member of the MDC he is seriously conflicted. He cannot suddenly assert that “The electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw," you say.


    The flaws and illegalities Coltart admitted were there for all to see. The failure to produce a verified voters roll, for example, was something everyone with eyes to see saw. The conclusion that boycotting the elections was the only logical thing to do was also the obvious thing to do. And so your claim that Coltart was "seriously conflicted" is totally irrational!


    What did you want Coltart to do to prove he was not conflicted?

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  17. @ Timothy

    If we are going to have a meaningful discussion then we must start by being respectful of historic facts.


    “Zanu PF never claimed to have won the 2008 March elections. MDC did. However, there was no outright winner on the Presidential vote and MT chickened out after realising that if he had gone ahead he was going to lose(wise). The action by MT forced the GNU. In other words there was no June election,” you say.


    Zanu PF disputed MDC’s claim of the March result to the point of forcing ZEC to withhold announcing the result for six weeks. It took the party this long to whittle down Tsvangirai’s 73%, by Mugabe’s own Freudian slip, to 47% to force a run-off.


    Tsvangirai “chickened out” because Zanu PF was using wanton violence to punish the voters for having rejected Mugabe and Zanu PF in the March vote and make sure they voted for Mugabe in the run-off. Mugabe got 84% of the votes in the run-off but no one, not even SADC and the AU, recognised the result as a true expression of the will of the people given the wanton violence and the blatant cheating.


    It was the international community’s refusal to accept the election process as legitimate one that forced Mugabe and Zanu PF to accept the formation of the GNU and not that Tsvangirai had “chickened out” of the race.


    Your lack of common sense to grasp what constitute free, fair and credible elections is what is shocking here. Even the 2008 elections with all its glaring flaws and illegalities, you still fail to see them. How can anyone be so shallow, thick and slow? And yet, you are.


    No wonder Zimbabwe is one serious political and economic mess; with voters like you and tyrants like Mugabe only too keen to take full advantage of them, the nation’s fate was sealed. Worse still, there is no hope of ever getting out of this hell-hole as long as people like you continue in their sloth-like slumber! None!

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  18. @ Succuda
    “And if I remember correctly, they issued around five different versions of the roll, each time flaws were found and they said it would be corrected, the last one issued had major flaws and Moyo (i think) said that one was not the final one that would be used... they never released the final one....
    “... Why would that be Timothy?”

    What I find really disappointing here is the even now with millions of our suffering and dying unnecessarily because the corrupt and tyrannical Zanu PF dictatorship has completely failed yet there are still some individuals stoically defending the dictatorship.

    Even if people like Timothy are the ones who are the beneficiaries of the dictatorship racking in hundreds of thousands of dollars from the wholesale looting going on. Still, one would expect them to at least acknowledge that their wealth is becoming utterly meaningless in the face of the growing desert of abject poverty.

    What is the good of having a fleet of posh cars when one cannot drive them anywhere because the roads are full of potholes or, worse stil, there is no fuel!

    The political system has failed how is it possible that some people cannot see something so obvious.

    A nation whose people are so blind, deaf and dumb they cannot even see the obvious is a doomed nation. We are a doomed nation, alright!
    You will never get Timothy to admit the elections were rigged even if you have a mountain of evidence to prove it. If you have your eyes close you will never see the mountain before you. Timothy has his physical and mental eyes closed!

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  19. @Timothy

    “Socrates refused to subscribe to the one man one vote narrative arguing that decisions were made through an election by people who did not know what they were voting for,” you said.

    Socrates believed in the democracy. Yes he was aware that not everyone who claimed to know something know what they were talking about but he had a solution to that – knowledge acquire through inquiry and cross examination. The Greeks valued freedom of expression and freedom of association.

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  20. The situation in Zimbabwe has gone beyond empathy and doing unto others as you would them do unto you; it is now common sense and survival. You do not s***t in the well from which you will be drinking out of yourself. You do not do so out of consideration for others but yourself interest.

    The political and economic chaos in Zimbabwe is not affecting the poor alone it is affecting everyone including the filthy rich ruling elite. What good is living in these mansions with a fleet of posh cars, 45 gold watches, etc. when the mansion is an island in the middle of an ocean of grinding poverty. Each time you are not well you have to fly to SA or Singapore because none of the local hospital have competent staff, lack even the most basic equipment, administer expired (if they are lucky to even have them), etc.

    We need genuine change in Zimbabwe as a matter of survival of the nation. This nation is dying and we are all going under with it! Only first class idiots would want this madness to continue only because they are so shortsighted they cannot see beyond the tip of their nose! We would be totally irresponsible if we allowed idiots have the final say on such a life and death matter!

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  21. @ Bee
    “You obviously have some reason for giving Mnangagwa the benefit of the doubt. Let's wait and see what history tells us. I am sure you are somewhere far away from Zimbabwe or else benefitting somehow from a corrupt system. How on earth do you explain the delay in releasing the election results and the fact that 6 people were shot by the army on the 1st August. They knew they had rigged, they wanted to nip any protests in the bud.”
    I agree with you 100% except for the "let's wait and see what history tells us"! The economic situation in Zimbabwe is so dire the suffering is truly heart breaking and people are dying unnecessarily right now. We cannot wait another day, this Zanu PF dictatorship must be forced to step down now before the whole country descend into utter chaos. Time is running out!

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  22. @Timothy
    “Over the years I have learnt that when people start raising irrelevant issues in an argument such as education or links to a matter under discussion they have failed to articulate their position and lost the argument. Democracy is already institutionalized in Zimbabwe. The past election was the first where the political space was fully opened up. Several parties failed to take advantage because it appeared too good to be true given our past history. The issues we have discussed here are matters for improvement and not reasons for discrediting the past election. We are a young democracy and we will definitely build on what we have started. Utopia is a pure fallacy and has never been achieved. Claims of superior intellect and deeper critical thinking ability can only be adjudged by the strength of your arguments and not by describing opponents as shallow, thick and slow.”

    Well that is true but when the argument has been heard and cross examined we have to come to a conclusion. If, from the sheer fluidity and logic of the argument one can judge Socrates a genius one should also be able to judge one Timothy Thorn from the sheer foolishness of what he said, “shallow, thick and slow”.

    You do agree that there geniuses out there, you are the one who name Socrates. Well there are also individuals who are “shallow, thick and slow”. You should look in the mirror and you will see one!

    Zanu PF tyrannical rule has caused heart-breaking suffering in Zimbabwe. Those shallow, thick as a brick individuals like you who want this swept under the carpet cannot be allowed to have the final say in this life and death matter. It is for that reason that dimwits like you must be reminded in no uncertain terms that they are dimwits!

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  23. @ Succuba
    “The voters roll is a mess, riddled with mistakes, you chose to cite that the only difference in those released rolls is the total of eligible voters, this is not the main problem, that merely points out that the roll is full of discrepancies.
    “I ask you again as you seem to be dodging the question, why are there duplicate entries on a voters roll that was compiled by biometric technology?
    “Care to take a stab at this question Timothy?”

    A dung beetle thrives on s***t but will never ever admit it! You will never get Timothy to admit ZEC failed to release the verified voters' roll although this is a legal requirement because it was an integral part of the Zanu PF vote rigging process.

    Zanu PF rigged the 30 July 2018 elections just as the party has rigged many other elections in the past. Timothy and his masters in Zanu PF HQ know it but will never ever admit it! Zanu PF thrives on rigged elections but will never ever admit to rigging elections.

    We, the ordinary people, are the ones Zanu PF has been short changing by rigging the elections our principle task is to stop Zanu PF rigging elections and not getting the thugs to admit it. And what better way of stopping Zanu PF rigging elections than making sure the party is pressured to step down and not rewarded by being allowed to stay in power.

    If Zanu PF is allowed to stay in power to the end of the five years, 2023, then we the people would have failed ourselves. Come the 2023 elections we can be certain of one thing - another Zanu PF landslide victory!

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  24. @ Bee

    “I did not say the majority. I said many of the rural folk support Zanu PF. Whatever argument you might put forward, the majority of Zimbabweans know that the elections were rigged. What exactly are you trying to do here? Rub salt into the wounds? It actually doesn't benefit Zanu PF winning the elections. They cannot rig the economy!”

    Retaining their iron grip on power is everything to these Zanu PF thugs. Yes Mnangagwa will be glad if he can also revive the economy but that is only a bonus. He will rather see the whole nation dragged into the deepest hell-on-earth if the price of stopping that happening is giving up power!

    Tyrannical regimes do not give up power, it is not in their DNA to do so. Mnangagwa and his fellow Zanu PF thugs are tyrants who not only love absolute power but have all the looted wealth to protect and the murderous past to keep under wraps.

    Mnangagwa and the rest in Zanu PF cross the Rubicon River decades ago, they are tyrants and there is no turning back now!

    If we are serious about ending the crippling economic meltdown and a just and democratic Zimbabwe then we must be prepared to confront and confound the Zanu PF dictatorship. Zanu PF rigged the recent elections and we must look Mnangagwa and his junta straight in the eyes and tell them they are illegitimate and must step down AND mean it!

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  25. @ Timothy

    Zanu PF rigged the elections and they are therefore illegitimate and must step down. If you think Zanu PF is going to be allowed to stay in power as happened in the past you better think again.

    You and your masters in Zanu PF HQ will never admit that you rigged the elections, you are dung beetles they will never ever admit to thriving on s***t! The challenge is not to force Zanu PF to admit it rigged the elections but to make sure the regime does not benefit from rigging at the nation's great expense!

    Zimbabwe's economic recovery will never happen as long as the country remains a pariah state ruled by corrupt and vote rigging thugs. So what is the point of discussing the economy! The economy remains relevant in that it is a pressure point, the economic situation will only get worse and remind us all of the need to end the curse of rigged elections and pariah state!

    If Zanu PF remain in power till 2023 then we, the ordinary Zimbabweans, would have failed ourselves in two ways. One, we have suffered the consequences of the corrupt and tyrannical rule for yet another five years. Two, and most important of all, we would have facilitated Zanu PF rigging the 2023 elections and thus extend its rule by yet another five more years!

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