Wednesday 31 July 2019

"We reiterate, Chamisa was the winner of 2018 election" - just obdurate and obstructive stupidity N Garikai


“It is now a year since Zimbabweans voted in the last harmonized elections on 30th July 2018,” read the MDC statement.


“We reiterate that the results of the Presidential election as announced by the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) and as endorsed by the Constitutional Court; were not a true reflection of the will of the people. We further maintain that according to our computation, our candidate Advocate Nelson Chamisa emerged as a clear winner in the contest.”

The country, indeed the whole world at large, considers this as yet another example of MDC obdurate and obstructive stupidity.

The Americans, the Commonwealth, EU and many other international nations and organisation have all dismissed last year’s elections as farce and a mockery to all that democratic elections should be.

“The (Zimbabwe) electoral commission lacked full independence and appeared to not always act in an impartial manner,” stated the EU Zimbabwe Election Observer Mission final report.

“The final results as announced by the Electoral Commission contained numerous errors and lacked adequate traceability, transparency and verifiability. Finally, the restrictions on political freedoms, the excessive use of force by security forces and abuses of human rights in the post-election period undermined the corresponding positive aspects during the pre-election campaign. As such, many aspects of the 2018 elections in Zimbabwe failed to meet international standards.”

The EU and anyone else of note never considered MDC’s claim that Nelson Chamisa won the presidential race for two basic reasons:

a)     The whole election process was full of flaws and illegalities; ZEC failed to produce something as basic and fundamental to democratic elections as a verified voters’ roll, for example. It is a mystery that anyone with any common sense even agreed to participate in such elections when it was clear Zanu PF would rig the elections. The whole election process was not free, fair and credible and so all the results were null and void. Why MDC chose to accept the election process as valid and only to reject some selected results including the presidential race results is beggars belief.

b)     Even if one was to accept whatever twisted logic MDC used to justify overlooking all the flaws and illegalities in the election process, still no one could ever accept MDC’s claim that Chamisa polled more votes than Mnangagwa. Both Chamisa and ZEC for Mnangagwa failed to produce all the V11 forms, a summary of each candidate’s vote count by polling stations. About 10% of the V11 forms were never made public although this is a legal requirement just as producing a verified voters’ roll was a legal requirement. Of course, it is nonsensical for anyone to accept Chamisa’s or ZEC’s figure when one cannot verify or trace any of the figures.  

Anyone familiar with Zimbabwe’s checked political history was not at all surprised that MDC and the rest in the Zimbabwe opposition camp participated in last year’s elections even though ZEC had failed to produce something as basic as verified voters’ roll and all knew Zanu PF would rig the elections. The opposition candidates also knew that Zanu PF would be giving away a few gravy train seats as bait. It was these seats the opposition were after.

“The worst aspect for me about the failure to agree a coalition was that both MDCs couldn’t now do the obvious – withdraw from the (2013) elections,” admitted MDC Senator David Coltart in his book.

“The electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw, which would compel SADC to hold Zanu PF to account. But such was the distrust between the MDC-T and MDC-N that neither could withdraw for fear that the other would remain in the elections, winning seats and giving the process credibility.”

Four of the main MDC factions did form a coalition just before the 2018 elections and still they participated knowing fully well that Zanu PF would rig the elections for the same reason as before – greed for the scrap gravy train seats on offer.

The only reason MDC has decided to accept the election process as free, fair and credible but reject the presidential result is to take advantage of the fact that everyone else of note dismissed the election as a farce. MDC is offering Mnangagwa “legitimacy” in return for cabinet positions for Chamisa and one or two other MDC leaders.

Mnangagwa and his Zanu PF party are illegitimate because last year’s election process was flawed and illegal and therefore could not produce a legitimate winner. With no legitimate government Zimbabwe will then be compelled to appoint an interim administration whose primary task would be to implement the necessary democratic reforms to stop this curse of rigged elections.

But by participating in the flawed and illegal elections and then MDC bargaining legitimacy for a share of the spoils of the rigged elections, the opposition has given Zanu PF some modicum of political credibility. This has undermined those demanding that Zanu PF must step down on the grounds the regime is illegitimate. This is why MDC’s contradictory claim to have won presidential race is not just stupid but worse still an obstruction to the pressing matter of implementing the reforms and ending the curse of rigged elections. 

16 comments:

  1. To readmit Zimbabwe after it rigged last year's elections would be to betray not just the people of Zimbabwe fighting for free, fair and credible elections but many others who are certain to follow. If Commonwealth lowed the bar of democratic elections many will follow Zimbabwe's example and rig elections!

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  2. There is an inherent contradiction in MDC’s position here. The party believed Chanisa won the presidency and does not recognise Mnangagwa as the legitimate president. Many people have no problem with Mnangagwa being illegitimate since they have dismissed the whole election as a farce. MDC’s proposal that the party and Zanu PF can meet and agree on some power sharing arrangement and between them agree on the composition of the new legitimate government is problematic in that it is not in the powers of the two political to confer legitimacy unto themselves.

    Any election process in which there was no verified voters’ roll; 3 million potential voters in the diaspora were denied the vote (compared to 5 million who voted); in which the rural voters, 60% of the 5 million, were reduced to little short of medieval serfs beholden to Zanu PF; etc. can never ever be judged free, fair and credible. Mnangagwa and his Zanu PF regime is illegitimate because the election was not free, fair and credible. The ration way forward is for the nation to elect an interim government to implement the reforms and hold fresh elections.

    For the two principal players in the rigged elections to decide amongst themselves the way forward is a nonsense since they are the ones who landed the nation in this mess in the first place.

    Zimbabwe is in this economic and political mess because the country has repeatedly failed to hold free, fair and credible elections for the last 39 years. The country has a chance to appoint competent individuals to carry out this key task.

    It is clear that both Zanu PF, by imposing itself as the legitimate government, and MDC, by offering Zanu PF a way out of the illegitimacy on condition the regime shares the spoils, are trying to impose themselves on the nation. The promise to implement a “robust reform agenda” is rejected because the two parties failed to implement even one reform during the last GNU. After 39 years of holding this nation to ransom, all attempts to continue to do so will be resisted!

    It is most disheartening that the people of Zimbabwe have risk life and limb to elect MDC politicians into public office on the understanding the party will help dismantle the Zanu PF dictatorship and now it is none other than MDC that is helping Zanu PF to stay power!

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  3. In signing the 2008 Global Political Agreement negotiated with the help of SADC, was the closest Mugabe and his Zanu PF thugs came to losing power. The real tragedy was that the MDC leaders failed to get even one meaningful reform implemented in five years. Not one!

    “We got in the inclusive government and just sat there, spent five years in there. We came out without doing anything," admitted Nelson Chamisa, the new MDC leader after a decade of denying they had sold-out during the GNU.

    Paul Themba Nyati, the MDC leader in the news clip has yet to admit that MDC sold-out. Mugabe bribe the MDC leaders with the trappings of high office; the limos; generous salaries and allowances; a former white owned farm for Welshman Ncube (the leader of the MDC faction to which Nyati belonged); a $4 million mansion for Morgan Tsvangirai, the of the main MDC faction; etc. With their snouts in the feeding trough MDC leaders forgot about implementing the reforms.

    When Mnangagwa failed to hold free, fair and credible elections in 2018, Zanu PF was once again under pressure to step down. Sadly it is once again the MDC sell-outs who are helping the regime off the hook. MDC is offering to declare the Zanu PF regime legitimate regardless of the fact the party rigged last year's elections. And in return Chamisa is demanding that Mnangagwa appoint him and a few other MDC leaders ministers complete with the usual gravy train perks!

    Thousands of ordinary Zimbabweans have lost their lives in the fight to elect MDC leaders like Paul Themba Nyati into power on the understanding the MDC leaders will bring about the democratic changes the nation has been dying for the last 39 years. It is heart breaking that MDC has failed to bring about even one meaningful change in 20 years of the party's existence.

    Worse still, it is infuriating that it in none other than MDC leaders who are undermining efforts to get the reforms implemented by giving the Zanu PF regime the modicum of political credibility it does not deserve by participating in flawed and illegal elections, for example. So to fight for democratic change we now have to fight not only Zanu PF thugs but MDC sell-outs too!

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  4. Chiwocha, who holds a business studies diploma from a college in the capital Harare, says his hopes have been cruelly dashed.

    “I graduated in 2012 and I have not had a job. I thought after winning the elections, Mnangagwa would fix the economy and all who had qualifications would get jobs.”

    Whilst one can have sympathy for the rural voters who are nothing more than serfs and have no choice but to vote for Zanu PF it is impossible to feel sorry for individuals like Chiwocha who voted for Zanu PF freely. By the time people voted, 8 months since the military coup, it was already clear that Mnangagwa had no intention of holding free, fair and credible elections. It was clear the Zanu PF dictatorship was still firmly in place and Zimbabwe was to remain a pariah state. No one had any excuse to expect Mnangagwa to revive the economy because no one would invest in a pariah state!

    Zimbabwe is in this sorry state because, sadly, the country has more than its fair share of really naïve and gullible people who follow blindly like sheep. After 39 years it is fair to say the nation had many, many golden opportunities to end the Zanu PF dictatorship but wasted them all. The country’s main opposition party, the MDC, has had many chances to dismantle the dictatorship but sold-out. Even now with the benefit of hindsight many Zimbabweans still fail to see MDC leaders for the incorrupt and incompetent village idiots they are.

    As a rule of thumb, nations get the government they deserve. We, in Zimbabwe, certain deserve this corrupt, incompetent, vote rigging and tyrannical Zanu PF dictatorship complete with its entourage of corrupt and utterly useless opposition parties, some130 of them contested the flawed and illegal 2018 elections.

    As long as the country’s electorate remain naïve and gullible like Chiwocha this country is not to escape out of the hell-on-earth it is stuck in. Understanding what is going on in the country requires a little effort on the part of the people, those who are too lazy to think deserve to suffer.

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  5. Poor Chamisa, he is so corrupt and incompetent all his plans and strategies have fallen flat on their faces at the first huddle and so in a desperate effort to get people to follow him he is presenting his plans and strategies as divinely inspired. He is going through a 7 day countdown of Biblical Joshua marching round Jericho right now before calling out on the nation to join him in the street protest to demand that Mnangagwa appoints him, Tendai Biti and a few other MDC leaders minister in a new GNU arrangement.

    The last GNU in 2008 accomplished nothing as Chamisa himself was forced to admit two weeks ago after a decade of denying. In the new GNU MDC leaders have even less political power than the 2008 one it is naïve to believe the arrangement will implement any reforms. The arrangement is to secure gravy train seats for Chamisa and his friends at the expense of the masses MDC will be selling out once again. How can God ever be associated with a scheme for the few at the expense of the impoverished and long suffering masses!

    Chamisa the Biblical Joshua, whatever next!

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  6. It was not until the late 1990s that many Zimbabweans finally accepted that Mugabe and his Zanu PF friends were corrupt, incompetent and, worst of all, vote rigging and murderous thugs. By then the Zanu PF dictatorship was well established and its corrupting influence was deep rooted in society. There was a nation wide consensus on the need for democratic changes to end the Zanu PF dictatorship but uprooting it was not going to be a walk in the park.

    Morgan Tsvangirai and his friends formed a new political party and named it the Movement for Democratic Change; to capitalized on the already popular national clarion call of democratic change. People have risked livelihoods, property, life and limb to elect MDC leaders into office on the understanding they would bring about the democratic changes. Sadly, that was not to be.

    Tsvangirai and his MDC friends have proven to be breathtakingly corrupt and incompetent; they have had many, many golden opportunities to implement the democratic reforms to dismantle the Zanu PF dictatorship but have wasted them all. During the 2008 to 2013 GNU, MDC had their best chances ever to implemented the reforms; they "sat, ate and did nothing" as Chamisa himself finally admitted.

    I totally agree with you that Zanu PF rigged last year's election, the regime is illegitimate and the most logical course of action is demanding that Zanu PF step down to allow a competent interim authority to finally implement the democratic reforms. MDC's counter proposal of a Zanu PF and MDC GNU is a waste of time as we all know that it will never implement the democratic reforms. Never! Chamisa et al are calling for this new GNU because they want another chance "to sit, eat and do nothing!"

    It took 20 years for Zimbabweans to finally admit Mugabe and his Zanu PF friends are corrupt and murderous thugs. In all its 20 years on the political stage, MDC has failed to bring about even one democratic change and right now the party is the one helping Zanu PF stay in power. How much longer will it take before Zimbabweans finally wake up to the reality that Chamisa and his MDC friends are sell-outs undermining the national agenda of democratic change and free, fair and credible elections?

    How much longer can this nation endure the economic hardships brought on by the 40 years of Zanu PF misrule?

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  7. A new GNU will give Chamisa and a few MDC leaders a chance to get back on the gravy train as cabinet minister but will achieve nothing else. If the 2008 GNU failed to get even one reform implemented it is naive to expect this new and weaker GNU to do any better.

    Zanu PF rigged last year's elections, we should be piling the pressure on the regime to step down.

    The last GNU was SADC providing a soft landing for Mugabe and Zanu PF but with a good chance of getting the reforms implemented if MDC had not sold out. This new GNU is MDC providing a soft landing for Zanu PF again and worse still knowing fully well there is no hope in getting any reforms implemented. None!

    The economic situation in Zimbabwe is dire with unemployment a nauseating 90%, health care all but collapsed, 3/4 of our people living on US$30 or less a month, etc. The country needs solutions to end this curse of rigged elections and move forward. The proposed new GNU is just another time wasting gimmick. One only hopes that Zimbabweans will see MDC leaders for what they are - sell-outs - and stop following them like sheep to the slaughter!

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  8. The electricity tariff for domestic consumers be increased from an average of ZWL9.86c/kWh to an average of ZWL27c/kWh (approximately USc3/kWh), which is subsidised; with immediate effect.

    This is nearly a whopping 60% increase in electricity charges in a country in which 90% of these consumers are unemployed, they eke out a living from the informal sector.

    Worse still, the 60% increase in the power tariff will attract a new round of price of similar increases of goods and services and thus fuelling the dreaded hyperinflation. Inflation surged from 75% to 175% in the first month of passing SI 142 in June; by the end August it will be 200%, at least. ZESA would be asking for another tariff increase and as for the ¾ of the population living on US$30 or less per month they will be dying for want of food, medicine, etc.!

    It is all very well for Minister Mthuli Ncube to be calling for these “with immediate effect” increases in tariff and prices he should be considering what is their effect on inflation – the gene he let out of the bottle by passing SI 142 and his many ill-advised policies!

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  9. Electricity charges will go up from 9,86 cents (US1 cent) per kilowatt hour (kWh) to 27 cents/kWh (3 US cents).

    Taxation of fuel imports more than doubled from 19% and 16% of the landed cost for petrol and diesel to 45% and 40%, meaning that pump prices will significantly rise from current levels.

    Ncube announced an increase in government service fees as well as fresh taxation for electronic transactions.

    For tollgates, light motor vehicles would now be required to pay $10 up from $2, mini-buses $15 up from $4 and conventional buses will now pay $20 up from $5. Heavy vehicles and haulage trucks will now pay $25 and $50, respectively.

    Route authority application fees have been increased from $25 to $125, operator's licence application fee have been reviewed to $250 from $50. Original motor vehicle plates now cost $400 from $80, while changing number plates will attract a similar fee.

    Minister Mthuli Ncube was warned that his voodoo economic policies such as the 2% electronic transaction tax aid at the poorest of the poor whilst letting the wholesale looting to continue and the banishing of the foreign currencies as legal tender would cause inflation. He did not listen. Now he has let out inflation, the gene, out of the bottle he is the one turbo charging it with his foolish price increases. 300% electricity tariff hike, 500% tollgate charge, 500% route application fees, etc. are only going to fuel inflation and destroy the little economic activity still going on!

    Minister Mthuli Ncube, you are not reviving the economy; you are killing it!

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  10. War veterans in Mashonaland East on Wednesday demanded that their pension benefits be raised to match salaries of serving army lieutenant-colonels.

    Speaking during a public meeting by the Calisto Gwanetsa-led Parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Defence and Security held at Mbuya Nehanda Hall in Marondera, war veterans said the current economic conditions have eroded their meagre earnings, hence a hike of at least $2 000 or an equivalent to a lieutenant-colonel's salary would suffice.

    One of the war veterans, Victor Chinyama said their current $313 monthly pension payout was a disservice and mockery to the welfare of the liberation fighters.

    "The current benefits of $313 is too little for our welfare. It is not enough given the current inflation rate. We need our monthly monies to be raised to an equivalent of a lieutenant-colonel's salary. Some are saying it's around $2 000 or somewhere there," he said.

    Mugabe sweet talked many war veterans into believing the Zanu PF dictatorship would deliver economic prosperity for all and many believed him. In the late 1990s when the economy is in trouble and many people faced serious economic hardships whilst the few ruling elite were living pretty, many of the war veterans caught up in the rising tide of poverty started to grumble. Mugabe stepped in and paid them the Z$ 50 000 graduate plus other allowances. For the next two decades war veterans were Mugabe’s foot-soldiers doing the bulk harassing, beating, raping and some even murdered innocent Zimbabweans for the sole purpose of keeping Mugabe and Zanu PF in power.

    Zanu PF did not pay the war veterans all their promised pension, school fees, etc., especially between elections when the party did not need their services as thugs for hire. It is no surprise therefore that most of the war veterans and as poor as church mice!

    The real surprise is that there are still war veterans who still fail to see the reality that the Zanu PF dictatorship was doomed to fail because it was wasteful of the nation’s material and human resources. By denying the populous their basic rights including the right to a meaningful vote to impose the dictatorship the war veterans were making certain their own suffering.

    Now that government has rediscovered the art of creating money out of nothing; the war veterans will get a hefty increase in their pension, they may even get Z$ 2 000 they are asking for, but by the end of the year it too will be worthless!

    It is not the pension increase the war veterans should be demanding but the end of the doomed dictatorship because the country will never escape from this hell-on-earth as long as the country remains a pariah state ruled by corrupt, incompetent and vote rigging and murderous thugs!

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  11. He said: Currently, the hospital is facing critical problems in this aspect of electricity and water supply.

    Chinhoyi Provincial Hospital operations are being hampered to the extent of losing patients as a result of load-shedding by ZESA.

    Collet Mawire also revealed that the hospital is understaffed, having 79 nurses out of an ideal complement of 350, while there are five specialist doctors out of a possible 10.

    If things are this bad at the provincial hospital how much worse at the smaller hospitals in the rural back waters! Our health care service collapsed a long, long time ago we, the people, have not admitted it much less demand that something is done about it. It is for us to complain about it, the ruling elite know the health service has collapse hence the reason they have been going to SA, India, China, Singapore, etc. for all their health care needs!

    40 years of gross mismanagement and rampant corruption by this corrupt and tyrannical Zanu PF has destroyed the country’s once vibrant economy. We all know that country is stuck with this corrupt and incompetent regime because it rigs elections to stay in power. And even now with people dying unnecessarily those is position of power and authority still say nothing of the root cause of the problem. They pretend this is a local and isolated ZESA power cut problem.

    Zimbabwe’s problem of bad governance will not go away and burying our heads in the sand these last 40 years has dragged us deeper and deeper in the abyss.

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  12. @ Dumisani Muleya

    Keynesian economics tells us, first of all, consumption depends upon disposable income. Second, disposable income and consumption have a symbiotic relationship; consumption increases with income growth. As income increases so too does spending and consumption. This affects aggregate demand and production.

    Finance minister Mthuli Ncube yesterday suspended the release of annual inflation figures until February next year under the guise of inflation rebasing and other technicalities, effectively trying to hide away the ugly face of price escalations and economic meltdown. But he admitted negative economic growth and recession are now a reality.

    A few moons ago Professor Mthuli Ncube tried to hide the reality of rising inflation by claiming people were confusing annual inflation rate with monthly inflation rate. His rather convoluted calculation showed that inflation was coming down and he even claimed that inflation by the end of this year 2019 would be below 10%. He is the one now fuelling hyperinflation with him approving 200% electricity tariff increases, 400% tollgate charge increases, etc. He is now suspending the release of inflation rate figures because even he cannot cook up the figures to hide the reality that the country is in serious economic trouble.

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  13. The international community remains sceptical and wary. They are unwilling to underwrite the corrupt and incompetent Mnangagwa administration's faltering project. All in all, it has undeniably been a disastrous year, an annus horribilis for Mnangagwa.

    You are 100% correct, the international community are not going to underwrite this doom Zanu PF regime, even the addition of Chamisa and other MDC leaders into the regime will make them change their mind. The only way out of this mess is for Zanu PF to step down - an unthinkable prospect for the regime but it is either an orderly step down or the Gadaffi high road.

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  14. Repression still remains. Political activists and human rights defenders continue to be hounded. Dissenting voices are being crushed, while innocent civilians have been maimed and killed in street protests.

    Nothing has been done to bring offenders to justice and compensate victims, for instance, on the August 1, 2018 and January 2018 killings. The real tragedy is that those in the military responsible for the bloodshed have not been held to account.

    The other issues are reforms and international isolation. Although government is pushing a broad reform agenda, it is largely piecemeal and superficial, let alone convincing and impactful.

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  15. In a cryptic post on Twitter on Tuesday, MDC Alliance vice president Tendai Biti said a radical paradigm shift was required.

    "There comes at a time in the history of any struggle where a radical paradigm shift is required. Section 59 cries out loud .Our people are suffering , poverty , shortages ,hyperinflation , corruption and the collapse of social services decimates our people #Itistime," posted Biti
    Section 59 of the Constitution states that, "Every person has the right to demonstrate and to present petitions, but these rights must be exercised peacefully."

    Meanwhile, Biti, reacting to the party's recent loss in the Lupane East by election, said they needed to formulate a strong policy to woo rural voters.

    "It is true that there is a lot we could do better in terms of our rural strategy and rural effort. It is true that we may need to redefine our deployment strategy. But we lost #Lupane East to an uneven and unequal electoral playing field. We lost to selectorate, to coercion and capture," he said.

    MDC leaders will continue to participate in those elections regardless how flawed and illegal the process happen to be because of greed as David Coltart readily admitted in his book.

    In his Book, The Struggle Continues 50 years of tyranny in Zimbabwe, former MDC – Ncube Senator and Minister of Education in the GNU, David Coltart, gave details of how Zanu PF flouted the electoral rules, it clear the upcoming 2013 elections would not be free and fair. Meanwhile talks of uniting the two MDC factions to fight the elections as one were going nowhere.

    “The worst aspect for me about the failure to agree a coalition was that both MDCs couldn’t now do the obvious – withdraw from the elections,” explained Senator Coltart.

    “The electoral process was so flawed, so illegal, that the only logical step was to withdraw, which would compel SADC to hold Zanu PF to account. But such was the distrust between the MDC-T and MDC-N that neither could withdraw for fear that the other would remain in the elections, winning seats and giving the process credibility.”
    Right now MDC leaders are calling for nationwide demonstration to push the party’s demand to force Mnangagwa to form a new GNU in which they would have cabinet seats. The new GNU will not implement any reforms just as the old one failed to do the same.

    There is a crying need for Zimbabweans to wake up to the political reality that MDC leaders are no longer interested in fighting for free, fair and credible elections for all Zimbabweans all they are after now is winning the few gravy train seats.

    The nation should be pressuring Zanu PF to step down because the regime rigged last year’s election and it is illegitimate. It is none other than MDC leaders who are helping Zanu PF to remain in office in return for cabinet positions. Zimbabweans must wake up or they are going to waste the chance to effect meaningful change yet again.

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  16. The much anticipated MDC mother of all demonstrations is penciled to be held on the 16th of August 2019 a prominent journalist Hopewell Chin'ono has said.

    "My Police sources have just told me that the MDC has served notice as required by the law, that they will be taking to the streets on the 16th of August 2019, in a protest signaling the beginning of the party's expected demonstrations against the low standard of life in Zimbabwe." the award winning journalist wrote on Twitter.

    Said Chamisa, "Faith without works is dead. It is not time for us to be our own liberators."

    What any thinking Zimbabwean out there would find totally objectionable about Chamisa’s call is his deliberate misrepresentation of his call for public protest as an act of faith, an act approved by God when that is just nonsense. Chamisa’s claim that “God is in these demos” is just as nonsensical as Grace Mugabe’s claim the “God anointed Mugabe to rule Zimbabwe!”

    Mugabe was a corrupt, incompetent, vote rigging and murderous thug. Of course, it was blasphemous to suggest God would ever be associated with such an evil man.

    Zimbabwe is still in this political and economic mess because MDC leader “sat, ate and failed to implement even one democratic reform in five years of the last GNU,” as Chamisa himself acknowledged last month. MDC leaders are seeking a new GNU for the same reason, to “sit, eat and do nothing!” whilst the majority continue to suffer and die. Of course, it is blasphemous that God approved the sell-out scheme!

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