You are right, Mugabe did not hollow out only Zanu PF but the whole nation, we have become a nation of punkah-wallahs alright!
Look at the MDC, their principle task in the 2008 GNU was to implement the democratic reforms so that the blatant cheating and wanton violence that took place in the 2008 elections would never be repeated ever again. "Follow the Global Political Agreement roadmap," SADC leaders reminded Tsvangirai and company again and again throughout the five years. MDC leaders did not listen and so not even one reform was implemented in five years.
It is no surprise that Zanu PF has been able to rig the 2013 and last year's elections. The party was spoilt for choice as to what dirty tactics to use! The party denied 3 million Zimbabweans in the diaspora the vote. ZEC made a big song and dance about introducing the Biometric Voting System and over US$100 million was spent in buying the kits and installing it and yet come voting day it was back to the printed voters' roll. ZEC did not even both to explain why nor did any of the opposition contestant even notice the switch!
The opposition did not even have the common sense to demand that ZEC produce a verified voters' roll although this is a legal requirement.
The foreign elections observers had no choice but to dismiss the whole elections process as a farce because the ZEC results contained "numerous errors, could not be traced and verified".
The ordinary Zimbabweans themselves have too been hollowed out, their brains scoop out and replaced with mud. How else otherwise can only explain why many of them have failed to see opposition politicians for the corrupt, incompetent and sell-out they are even now with the benefit of hindsight.
People get the government they deserve; Zimbabweans certain deserve the corrupt and tyrannical Zanu PF thugs complete with the entourage of corrupt and incompetent opposition sell-outs. We are a nation of punkah-wallahs and it is no surprise that we have hollowed out punkah-wallahs leaders on both sides of the political divide.
We have another golden opportunity to implement the democratic reforms and finally put the nation of a firm democratic footing but there is no hope of getting that task done if we appoint punkah-wallahs, even the same who failed to get even one reform, to do it. You would think that after 38 years we have learned not to repeat the same idiotic mistake. Alas, punkah-wallahs have no common sense and repeating the same mistake comes naturally to them.
“Another possible outcome is a Zanu-PF offer to the opposition of that increasingly common political animal, the wildebeest — a GNU. Governments of National Unity are fast becoming the stock consolation prize for African opposition parties cheated out of electoral victories. One was tried, with modest success, in Zimbabwe after the blood-doused elections of 2008. The opposition partner in that GNU, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), was ditched after one term and it may not fall for that trick again. In the meantime, Zimbabwe’s economy will spiral downwards, fuelled by gathering hyperinflation. But don’t waste your time waiting for Zanu-PF to be booted out at the ballot box. As Stalin was wont to say, it’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes. And previous electoral rigging by Zanu-PF has shown just that,”
The 2008 GNU was not “a modest success” it was a total disaster for Zimbabwe because it failed to get even one democratic reform implemented and this stop Zanu PF rigging elections. The new GNU comprising the same corrupt and incompetent Zanu PF and MDC leaders will not get all the democratic reforms implemented, if any at all.
I agree with you that the nation will be wasting “time waiting for Zanu-PF to be booted out at the ballot box!” All those calling for a new GNU and want Zanu PF and MDC to play an role in it clearly have no idea what they are talking about!
Zimbabwe's political and economic crisis stem from the country's repeated failure to hold free, fair and credible elections. President Ramaphosa's remark that last year's Zimbabwe elections "went well" when everyone else has said they were rigged is worse than foolish because he knows the elections were rigged.
The only solution to Zimbabwe's crisis is for Zanu PF to step down because the party rigged last year's elections. The days of appeasing Zanu PF are over we need to deal with the regime firmly and decisively. After his foolish remark, President Ramaphosa, has made it very difficult for him to be decisive!
"We simply wanted to get an understanding of what provoked this situation, to get a common understanding in that area on why we are where we are at the moment and moving on how the church and Government can collaborate so that we move beyond this situation towards the Zimbabwe we want," said Zimbabwe Catholic Bishops Conference secretary-general Father Frederick Chiromba, after meeting VP Chiwenga and other senior government officials.
The violent demonstrations, which is part of the regime change agenda by opposition political parties and their foreign agents, saw at least 1 100 people being arrested.
What the church leaders must understand is that Zimbabwe is in this economic and political mess because the country has been stuck for 38 years with a corrupt and tyrannical regime that rigged elections to stay in power regardless of the people’s democratic wishes.
Zanu PF rigged last year’s elections, it is illegitimate, and, if we are serious about getting the country to move forward, the regime must step down. This is now an urgent matter and is none negotiable.
Because of such conduct, Zimbabwe is every day sending a message to the world that it is not open for business. It needs no record scientist to foretell that no investor would risk pumping money into such a volatile State where people's rights are butchered left, right and centre by a rogue-like military with no compunction.
It is against this backdrop that Britain's Commonwealth minister, Lord Tariq Mahmood Ahmad, has raised concerns over Zimbabwe's suitability to return to the grouping of former British colonies. The Commonwealth observer mission at the July 31 elections gave a negative report. Then came the August 1 shootings. And now the current spate of military brutality against unarmed citizens. All these are negative indicators for a country that had been given a benefit of the doubt to make good the opportunity presented by Mugabe's departure from the political scene.
Several European Union countries as well as the United States - which are major players in the global economy compared to the fringe outposts that Mnangagwa has been visiting lately - have all condemned the government crackdown and it is highly unlikely that they will be willing to work with the current administration and help it on the economic recovery that it desperately needs.
One way of demonstrating government's commitment and make good its claims that it has departed from the Mugabe way is for Mnangagwa to fulfil his promise to deal with rogue State security agents accused of brutalising civilians. Without that, then we are on our own, and perhaps worse off than we were under Mugabe. This is the time for Mnangagwa to make hard decisions as Head of State. It is not good enough to just promise things on social media. Justice must be seen to be done.
The penny has dropped, this Zanu PF regime is just as corrupt, incompetent and tyrannical as the one led by Robert Mugabe. All talk of the regime having changed was just cheap talk.
The only way out is for the Zanu PF regime to step down, it rigged last July’s election and it is illegitimate. In 2008 the party staged its first military coup to stop MDC taking power followed by the most blood elections in the country’s history. The regime was allowed to stay in power by going into the GNU.
The party cannot be offered another GNU soft landing for three reasons:
the last GNU failed to implement even one democratic reforms and it is almost certain that the same will happen again.
Zimbabwe’s economic situation is desperate, 3/4 of the population now live on US$1.00 or less a day and many people are already dying of poverty related hunger and diseases, the nation cannot afford to appease Zanu PF leaders at the expense of the long suffering ordinary Zimbabweans. Allowing Zanu PF to remain in office, even if measures were adopted to ensure all the democratic reforms were implemented, will result in doubt and uncertainty adding five years or more to the recovery trajectory.
After 38 years of appeasing Zanu PF by allowing the party to remain in power after rigging the elections the nation needs to set a new precedence that no one rigging elections will ever again be allowed to get away with such treasonous behaviour!
Civil servants have given dialogue a chance and will meet Government on Monday over their salaries and conditions of service.
The Government workers had issued a 14-day strike notice which lapsed on Thursday but have shelved the plans to down tools in favour of dialogue to find a lasting solution
It seems civil servants living in their own imaginary world and a far flung from the real world! The events of the last six months have conformed that Zimbabwe is still a pariah state ruled by corrupt, vote rigging and murderous thugs. No investors, not even the Chinese and Russian ones, would ever want to invest their money is such a volatile nation.
There will be no meaningful economic recovery as long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state. And with no meaningful economic recovery the economic meltdown is set to get worse. No one is stopping the dialogue with government on pay increases but it can be said here and now that the talks will change nothing - government cannot increase workers’ wages when it has no money!
The civil servant should wake-up to the political reality that the sooner the country can end the curse of rigged elections and pariah state the sooner the country can hope to have meaningful economic recovery. The clarion call right now should be demanding that Zanu PF steps down as the first step to ending the pariah state.
Zimbabwe is a very rich country with vast natural and human resources and yet we are the poorest nation in Africa. Why? If you can understand why then that is all you need to understand.
The real morons, if you ask me, are the idiots who have destroyed the country's economy forcing 3/4 to live in abject poverty.
If you are still failing to understand then you should know that you are not the only one who has failed to understand even what many people would consider obvious, such is Zimbabwe's curse and hence the reason the country is in such a mess.
In case you have not noticed Zimbabwe is stuck and has been stuck in this rut for the last 38 years, same s***t of corruption, vote rigging, tyranny, economic hardships, fuel shortage, unemployment, etc., etc. The solution has not changed either, we still need to implement the democratic reforms to stop Zanu PF rigging elections, etc.
As long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state the country's problems and solutions will not change and since these is what I am talking about I do not see why I should change.
What coherent thing have you ever said in your whole life? Name just one! You have never said anything coherent yourself and yet has the chutzpah to judge other people's work!
Apex decisions are done collectively and not unilaterally. The recent unilateral statements allegedly by Cecilia Alexander that Apex has postponed industrial action to open room for negotiation is unfortunate and has no locus standi. Alexander must make decisions after consulting Apex affiliates. That she has unilaterally given a statement without consulting affiliates reveals her flirtation and romance with the employer.
Both our notice for industrial action of 8 January 2019 and our 48 hour reminder of the 23 January 2019 matured on 25 January 2019. Apex must therefore proceed as preplanned to meet and shape the modus operandi of industrial action on 28 January. Any other utterances are as unfortunate and ill-conceived. We cannot continue to negotiate for infinity. The law is clear that there must be three negotiating meetings, and workers there after can either decide to push negotiations by other means, viz, industrial action or arbitration. That we gave notice to industrial action means we have chosen the path of industrial action.
As long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state ruled by corrupt, vote rigging and murderous thugs there will be no meaningful economic recovery and the economic meltdown will get worse. We are in for a rough ride and the sooner we can get Zanu PF to step down the sooner the country can get out of this hell-hole Zanu PF landed us in.
I would rather hear the burning issues of corruption, vote rigging, tyrannical oppression, economic hardships, etc. affecting the nation discussed in "chilapalapa" than hear trivial matters or worse discussed in Shakespearean prose! What is more, I know the millions of out of work and living on US$ 1.00 a day and the hundreds of thousands beaten and raped last week do not care about the prose either!
Excuse me! What are you doing reading Zimeye then, you know the paper has articles from all sources regardless of their colour and shade of opinion, professional journalists, budding writers, the lot. If you are after Shakespeare's prose and sonnets you should be reading the Chronicle and the Herald and listen to ZBC radio or TV!
I get the feeling you cannot deny the vote rigging, the looting, the millions of Zimbabweans living in abject poverty, etc.; the substantive issues Zimbabweans are talking about. And so you raise the irrelevant issues of language the issues are been discussed as if that is more important than the millions whose lives is hell-on-earth. You Zanu PF apologists are getting desperate and it shows!
Zanu PF is imploding and regime change is coming and there is nothing anyone of you in Zanu PF can do to stop it!
You are right, Mugabe did not hollow out only Zanu PF but the whole nation, we have become a nation of punkah-wallahs alright!
ReplyDeleteLook at the MDC, their principle task in the 2008 GNU was to implement the democratic reforms so that the blatant cheating and wanton violence that took place in the 2008 elections would never be repeated ever again. "Follow the Global Political Agreement roadmap," SADC leaders reminded Tsvangirai and company again and again throughout the five years. MDC leaders did not listen and so not even one reform was implemented in five years.
It is no surprise that Zanu PF has been able to rig the 2013 and last year's elections. The party was spoilt for choice as to what dirty tactics to use! The party denied 3 million Zimbabweans in the diaspora the vote. ZEC made a big song and dance about introducing the Biometric Voting System and over US$100 million was spent in buying the kits and installing it and yet come voting day it was back to the printed voters' roll. ZEC did not even both to explain why nor did any of the opposition contestant even notice the switch!
The opposition did not even have the common sense to demand that ZEC produce a verified voters' roll although this is a legal requirement.
The foreign elections observers had no choice but to dismiss the whole elections process as a farce because the ZEC results contained "numerous errors, could not be traced and verified".
The ordinary Zimbabweans themselves have too been hollowed out, their brains scoop out and replaced with mud. How else otherwise can only explain why many of them have failed to see opposition politicians for the corrupt, incompetent and sell-out they are even now with the benefit of hindsight.
People get the government they deserve; Zimbabweans certain deserve the corrupt and tyrannical Zanu PF thugs complete with the entourage of corrupt and incompetent opposition sell-outs. We are a nation of punkah-wallahs and it is no surprise that we have hollowed out punkah-wallahs leaders on both sides of the political divide.
We have another golden opportunity to implement the democratic reforms and finally put the nation of a firm democratic footing but there is no hope of getting that task done if we appoint punkah-wallahs, even the same who failed to get even one reform, to do it. You would think that after 38 years we have learned not to repeat the same idiotic mistake. Alas, punkah-wallahs have no common sense and repeating the same mistake comes naturally to them.
@ P Godwin
ReplyDelete“Another possible outcome is a Zanu-PF offer to the opposition of that increasingly common political animal, the wildebeest — a GNU. Governments of National Unity are fast becoming the stock consolation prize for African opposition parties cheated out of electoral victories. One was tried, with modest success, in Zimbabwe after the blood-doused elections of 2008. The opposition partner in that GNU, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), was ditched after one term and it may not fall for that trick again. In the meantime, Zimbabwe’s economy will spiral downwards, fuelled by gathering hyperinflation. But don’t waste your time waiting for Zanu-PF to be booted out at the ballot box. As Stalin was wont to say, it’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes. And previous electoral rigging by Zanu-PF has shown just that,”
The 2008 GNU was not “a modest success” it was a total disaster for Zimbabwe because it failed to get even one democratic reform implemented and this stop Zanu PF rigging elections. The new GNU comprising the same corrupt and incompetent Zanu PF and MDC leaders will not get all the democratic reforms implemented, if any at all.
I agree with you that the nation will be wasting “time waiting for Zanu-PF to be booted out at the ballot box!” All those calling for a new GNU and want Zanu PF and MDC to play an role in it clearly have no idea what they are talking about!
Zimbabwe's political and economic crisis stem from the country's repeated failure to hold free, fair and credible elections. President Ramaphosa's remark that last year's Zimbabwe elections "went well" when everyone else has said they were rigged is worse than foolish because he knows the elections were rigged.
ReplyDeleteThe only solution to Zimbabwe's crisis is for Zanu PF to step down because the party rigged last year's elections. The days of appeasing Zanu PF are over we need to deal with the regime firmly and decisively. After his foolish remark, President Ramaphosa, has made it very difficult for him to be decisive!
"We simply wanted to get an understanding of what provoked this situation, to get a common understanding in that area on why we are where we are at the moment and moving on how the church and Government can collaborate so that we move beyond this situation towards the Zimbabwe we want," said Zimbabwe Catholic Bishops Conference secretary-general Father Frederick Chiromba, after meeting VP Chiwenga and other senior government officials.
ReplyDeleteThe violent demonstrations, which is part of the regime change agenda by opposition political parties and their foreign agents, saw at least 1 100 people being arrested.
What the church leaders must understand is that Zimbabwe is in this economic and political mess because the country has been stuck for 38 years with a corrupt and tyrannical regime that rigged elections to stay in power regardless of the people’s democratic wishes.
Zanu PF rigged last year’s elections, it is illegitimate, and, if we are serious about getting the country to move forward, the regime must step down. This is now an urgent matter and is none negotiable.
Because of such conduct, Zimbabwe is every day sending a message to the world that it is not open for business. It needs no record scientist to foretell that no investor would risk pumping money into such a volatile State where people's rights are butchered left, right and centre by a rogue-like military with no compunction.
ReplyDeleteIt is against this backdrop that Britain's Commonwealth minister, Lord Tariq Mahmood Ahmad, has raised concerns over Zimbabwe's suitability to return to the grouping of former British colonies. The Commonwealth observer mission at the July 31 elections gave a negative report. Then came the August 1 shootings. And now the current spate of military brutality against unarmed citizens. All these are negative indicators for a country that had been given a benefit of the doubt to make good the opportunity presented by Mugabe's departure from the political scene.
Several European Union countries as well as the United States - which are major players in the global economy compared to the fringe outposts that Mnangagwa has been visiting lately - have all condemned the government crackdown and it is highly unlikely that they will be willing to work with the current administration and help it on the economic recovery that it desperately needs.
One way of demonstrating government's commitment and make good its claims that it has departed from the Mugabe way is for Mnangagwa to fulfil his promise to deal with rogue State security agents accused of brutalising civilians. Without that, then we are on our own, and perhaps worse off than we were under Mugabe. This is the time for Mnangagwa to make hard decisions as Head of State. It is not good enough to just promise things on social media. Justice must be seen to be done.
The penny has dropped, this Zanu PF regime is just as corrupt, incompetent and tyrannical as the one led by Robert Mugabe. All talk of the regime having changed was just cheap talk.
The only way out is for the Zanu PF regime to step down, it rigged last July’s election and it is illegitimate. In 2008 the party staged its first military coup to stop MDC taking power followed by the most blood elections in the country’s history. The regime was allowed to stay in power by going into the GNU.
The party cannot be offered another GNU soft landing for three reasons:
the last GNU failed to implement even one democratic reforms and it is almost certain that the same will happen again.
Zimbabwe’s economic situation is desperate, 3/4 of the population now live on US$1.00 or less a day and many people are already dying of poverty related hunger and diseases, the nation cannot afford to appease Zanu PF leaders at the expense of the long suffering ordinary Zimbabweans. Allowing Zanu PF to remain in office, even if measures were adopted to ensure all the democratic reforms were implemented, will result in doubt and uncertainty adding five years or more to the recovery trajectory.
After 38 years of appeasing Zanu PF by allowing the party to remain in power after rigging the elections the nation needs to set a new precedence that no one rigging elections will ever again be allowed to get away with such treasonous behaviour!
Mnangagwa rigged last July's elections so do not try to use so ill-advised remarks of this Lord Palmer to justify why Zanu PF rigged the elections!
ReplyDeleteCivil servants have given dialogue a chance and will meet Government on Monday over their salaries and conditions of service.
ReplyDeleteThe Government workers had issued a 14-day strike notice which lapsed on Thursday but have shelved the plans to down tools in favour of dialogue to find a lasting solution
It seems civil servants living in their own imaginary world and a far flung from the real world! The events of the last six months have conformed that Zimbabwe is still a pariah state ruled by corrupt, vote rigging and murderous thugs. No investors, not even the Chinese and Russian ones, would ever want to invest their money is such a volatile nation.
There will be no meaningful economic recovery as long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state. And with no meaningful economic recovery the economic meltdown is set to get worse. No one is stopping the dialogue with government on pay increases but it can be said here and now that the talks will change nothing - government cannot increase workers’ wages when it has no money!
The civil servant should wake-up to the political reality that the sooner the country can end the curse of rigged elections and pariah state the sooner the country can hope to have meaningful economic recovery. The clarion call right now should be demanding that Zanu PF steps down as the first step to ending the pariah state.
@ Stix
ReplyDeleteZimbabwe is a very rich country with vast natural and human resources and yet we are the poorest nation in Africa. Why? If you can understand why then that is all you need to understand.
The real morons, if you ask me, are the idiots who have destroyed the country's economy forcing 3/4 to live in abject poverty.
If you are still failing to understand then you should know that you are not the only one who has failed to understand even what many people would consider obvious, such is Zimbabwe's curse and hence the reason the country is in such a mess.
@ Catch a thief
ReplyDeleteIn case you have not noticed Zimbabwe is stuck and has been stuck in this rut for the last 38 years, same s***t of corruption, vote rigging, tyranny, economic hardships, fuel shortage, unemployment, etc., etc. The solution has not changed either, we still need to implement the democratic reforms to stop Zanu PF rigging elections, etc.
As long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state the country's problems and solutions will not change and since these is what I am talking about I do not see why I should change.
What coherent thing have you ever said in your whole life? Name just one! You have never said anything coherent yourself and yet has the chutzpah to judge other people's work!
Apex decisions are done collectively and not unilaterally. The recent unilateral statements allegedly by Cecilia Alexander that Apex has postponed industrial action to open room for negotiation is unfortunate and has no locus standi. Alexander must make decisions after consulting Apex affiliates. That she has unilaterally given a statement without consulting affiliates reveals her flirtation and romance with the employer.
ReplyDeleteBoth our notice for industrial action of 8 January 2019 and our 48 hour reminder of the 23 January 2019 matured on 25 January 2019. Apex must therefore proceed as preplanned to meet and shape the modus operandi of industrial action on 28 January. Any other utterances are as unfortunate and ill-conceived. We cannot continue to negotiate for infinity. The law is clear that there must be three negotiating meetings, and workers there after can either decide to push negotiations by other means, viz, industrial action or arbitration. That we gave notice to industrial action means we have chosen the path of industrial action.
As long as Zimbabwe remains a pariah state ruled by corrupt, vote rigging and murderous thugs there will be no meaningful economic recovery and the economic meltdown will get worse. We are in for a rough ride and the sooner we can get Zanu PF to step down the sooner the country can get out of this hell-hole Zanu PF landed us in.
@ Stix
ReplyDeleteI would rather hear the burning issues of corruption, vote rigging, tyrannical oppression, economic hardships, etc. affecting the nation discussed in "chilapalapa" than hear trivial matters or worse discussed in Shakespearean prose! What is more, I know the millions of out of work and living on US$ 1.00 a day and the hundreds of thousands beaten and raped last week do not care about the prose either!
@ Stop-a thief
ReplyDeleteExcuse me! What are you doing reading Zimeye then, you know the paper has articles from all sources regardless of their colour and shade of opinion, professional journalists, budding writers, the lot. If you are after Shakespeare's prose and sonnets you should be reading the Chronicle and the Herald and listen to ZBC radio or TV!
I get the feeling you cannot deny the vote rigging, the looting, the millions of Zimbabweans living in abject poverty, etc.; the substantive issues Zimbabweans are talking about. And so you raise the irrelevant issues of language the issues are been discussed as if that is more important than the millions whose lives is hell-on-earth. You Zanu PF apologists are getting desperate and it shows!
Zanu PF is imploding and regime change is coming and there is nothing anyone of you in Zanu PF can do to stop it!